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	<title>Comments on: Associated Press Blows It Again re Regime Ties to Al Queda</title>
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		<title>By: AP Analysis: U.S. Is Winning Iraq War &#124; Comments from Left Field</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-101129</link>
		<dc:creator>AP Analysis: U.S. Is Winning Iraq War &#124; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The top rightwing blogs usually treat the Associated Press as a nest of lieberal traitors (&#8221;I personally just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AP Analysis: U.S. Is Winning Iraq War &#171; Liberty Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP Analysis: U.S. Is Winning Iraq War &#171; Liberty Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The top rightwing blogs usually treat the Associated Press as a nest of lieberal traitors (&#8221;I personally just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Freedom Never Cries &#124; The Anchoress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom Never Cries &#124; The Anchoress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] narratives aside - Iran is at work against Democracy in the Middle East, and oh yeah, it seems Saddam did have ties to terrorism, including friendship with Al Qaeda. You can read the Pentagon report [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] narratives aside &#8211; Iran is at work against Democracy in the Middle East, and oh yeah, it seems Saddam did have ties to terrorism, including friendship with Al Qaeda. You can read the Pentagon report [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-28138</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Word.  I&#039;ll keep an eye out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Word.  I&#8217;ll keep an eye out.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mark; I opened an account specifically to &quot;set the record straight&quot; in their Pentagon Report thread.  I just sent word to him, along with a link to this thread; so hopefully he either pops in here, or contacts me, or directly contacts you.

Chris, 

I pray it doesn&#039;t take another successful terror plot executed on American soil (or European, given bin Laden&#039;s latest) to give Americans (and the world) another wakeup call, after hitting the snooze button moments after 9/11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mark; I opened an account specifically to &#8220;set the record straight&#8221; in their Pentagon Report thread.  I just sent word to him, along with a link to this thread; so hopefully he either pops in here, or contacts me, or directly contacts you.</p>
<p>Chris, </p>
<p>I pray it doesn&#8217;t take another successful terror plot executed on American soil (or European, given bin Laden&#8217;s latest) to give Americans (and the world) another wakeup call, after hitting the snooze button moments after 9/11.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word,

I can fully relate to what Nanjing is saying.  What more do these islamofascists have to do to prove to a loud majority of Americans (and Europeans) that &quot;death to the infidel&quot; relly does mean they are activly trying to kill us for the sole &#039;crime&#039; of our existance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word,</p>
<p>I can fully relate to what Nanjing is saying.  What more do these islamofascists have to do to prove to a loud majority of Americans (and Europeans) that &#8220;death to the infidel&#8221; relly does mean they are activly trying to kill us for the sole &#8216;crime&#8217; of our existance?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-28130</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordsmith,
Do you have an account there?  Could you try to contact him for us? I am having some issues creating an account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wordsmith,<br />
Do you have an account there?  Could you try to contact him for us? I am having some issues creating an account.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-28129</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

I think what Mark is looking for, is to further document/research firsthand/second hand anecdotal accounts of what he already knows.  Hopefully Christine sees his question, and returns to give a response.

Mark, you might be interested in trying to contact a poster who goes by &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.military.com/member/view.do?memberId=15216789&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nanjing&lt;/a&gt;.  He made a few comments in &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/672198221/m/7820013471001/p/1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt;, including:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ordinary Iraqis have told me that Iraq had already been infiltrated by al-Qaida operatives even before the 2003 invasion, and indeed they were still there working as operatives and coordinating al-Qaida foreign fighters from North Africa to Indonesia prior to the fall of Baghdad.&lt;/b&gt;

al-Qaida in Iraq suffered hard about this time last year and moved what was left of their operation from Anbar Province to the suburbs of Iraq in hopes of getting better press coverage and creating more carnage.

&lt;b&gt;Many Iraqis that I spoke to were mystified at American reluctence to take the threat seriously for any length of time; just five years (when I was there) after our 9-11 losses. I suppose even al-Qaida is a little miffed at our indifference to the attack. After all, 9-11 was suppose to be the kick off for the end of the Western Age; instead they watched Americans accuse eachother of a 9-11 conspiracy while they themselves were not given much mention in any discussion by Congress or members of the press.&lt;/b&gt;

Unfortunately, any war that lasts longer than a flash in the pan victory followed by a big &quot;hoorah&quot; isn&#039;t popular with liberals, and I&#039;m afraid to say, increasingly reluctant conservatives as well. Lets just hope it doesn&#039;t take a thermonuclear strike against the U.S. mainland before people get serious.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>I think what Mark is looking for, is to further document/research firsthand/second hand anecdotal accounts of what he already knows.  Hopefully Christine sees his question, and returns to give a response.</p>
<p>Mark, you might be interested in trying to contact a poster who goes by <a href="http://profile.military.com/member/view.do?memberId=15216789" rel="nofollow">Nanjing</a>.  He made a few comments in <a href="http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/672198221/m/7820013471001/p/1" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>, including:<br />
<blockquote><b>Ordinary Iraqis have told me that Iraq had already been infiltrated by al-Qaida operatives even before the 2003 invasion, and indeed they were still there working as operatives and coordinating al-Qaida foreign fighters from North Africa to Indonesia prior to the fall of Baghdad.</b></p>
<p>al-Qaida in Iraq suffered hard about this time last year and moved what was left of their operation from Anbar Province to the suburbs of Iraq in hopes of getting better press coverage and creating more carnage.</p>
<p><b>Many Iraqis that I spoke to were mystified at American reluctence to take the threat seriously for any length of time; just five years (when I was there) after our 9-11 losses. I suppose even al-Qaida is a little miffed at our indifference to the attack. After all, 9-11 was suppose to be the kick off for the end of the Western Age; instead they watched Americans accuse eachother of a 9-11 conspiracy while they themselves were not given much mention in any discussion by Congress or members of the press.</b></p>
<p>Unfortunately, any war that lasts longer than a flash in the pan victory followed by a big &#8220;hoorah&#8221; isn&#8217;t popular with liberals, and I&#8217;m afraid to say, increasingly reluctant conservatives as well. Lets just hope it doesn&#8217;t take a thermonuclear strike against the U.S. mainland before people get serious.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-28094</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have said this many times prior, but how do people possibly think that reports such as this recent one concluding that Saddam had no ties to Al Qeada will be able to hold any credibility or pass off as fact? How do the politicians who doctor these reports justify their conclusions when it conflicts with the reports of our own allies on the ground so vociferously?

During the initial invasion, and the British first set foot on Basra within the Sunni Triangle, they had encountered members of Al Qaeda who were shooting at the British from a house when the soldiers were patrolling the euclayptis grove adjacent to Al Qaeda&#039;s location. According to the U.K. Sunday Times who was reporting on this event stated that the enemies that were apprehended confessed that there were 1,200 of them in the city and that they had been there before the invasion took place. 

Now, I will try to e-mail the editor of the U.K. Sunday Times and see if he or she could help me find the story again. Or I&#039;ll try to search the website&#039;s archives and see what I find there. If I find the article, then I will provide the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have said this many times prior, but how do people possibly think that reports such as this recent one concluding that Saddam had no ties to Al Qeada will be able to hold any credibility or pass off as fact? How do the politicians who doctor these reports justify their conclusions when it conflicts with the reports of our own allies on the ground so vociferously?</p>
<p>During the initial invasion, and the British first set foot on Basra within the Sunni Triangle, they had encountered members of Al Qaeda who were shooting at the British from a house when the soldiers were patrolling the euclayptis grove adjacent to Al Qaeda&#8217;s location. According to the U.K. Sunday Times who was reporting on this event stated that the enemies that were apprehended confessed that there were 1,200 of them in the city and that they had been there before the invasion took place. </p>
<p>Now, I will try to e-mail the editor of the U.K. Sunday Times and see if he or she could help me find the story again. Or I&#8217;ll try to search the website&#8217;s archives and see what I find there. If I find the article, then I will provide the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-28089</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ryan.  If it is the video from Amy Proctor&#039;s site I think I already saw it and posted it on my site.  Thanks though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ryan.  If it is the video from Amy Proctor&#8217;s site I think I already saw it and posted it on my site.  Thanks though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-28087</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, you know what? If you look into the archives section on this blog and click on the Iraq/Al Qaeda connections link, then you will actually find a video of an Iraqi making a testimony that Al Qaeda in Iraq was in Iraq before the invasion and that they did work with the Ba&#039;ath Party.

By all means, I am not trying to answer for Christine because I respectfully acknowledge that she is capable of doing so for herself. I just wanted to help direct this to your attention in case you are interested. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, you know what? If you look into the archives section on this blog and click on the Iraq/Al Qaeda connections link, then you will actually find a video of an Iraqi making a testimony that Al Qaeda in Iraq was in Iraq before the invasion and that they did work with the Ba&#8217;ath Party.</p>
<p>By all means, I am not trying to answer for Christine because I respectfully acknowledge that she is capable of doing so for herself. I just wanted to help direct this to your attention in case you are interested. Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Americans deserve insight, not old news, on Iraq War, So Where Is It?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Americans deserve insight, not old news, on Iraq War, So Where Is It?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] question, “If a report is released and no one in the media reports on it (let alone reports on it accurately), then does it matter?” Apparently not to Mr. Bersia who didn’t even bother to read the report [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-27914</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine,
Think you can contact this Iraqi again and see if he&#039;d go on the record and maybe provide some kind of evidence or testimony?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine,<br />
Think you can contact this Iraqi again and see if he&#8217;d go on the record and maybe provide some kind of evidence or testimony?</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-27913</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early on in the war when the first arguments started regarding the ties, I asked an Iraqi living in Iraq about this. He has lived there all of his life and definitely knew what he was talking about. The ties are true. The argument regarding sunni and shiit did not apply. It was a relationship based a need and it trumped trible differences.

His explanation was more elaborate. After that, I didn&#039;t need a report, to know the truth. I knew it was true.

The MSM will go out of their way to spin anything to fit their agenda. All of the reports and intelligence, will never change their stripes. If they can&#039;t spin it, they won&#039;t report it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early on in the war when the first arguments started regarding the ties, I asked an Iraqi living in Iraq about this. He has lived there all of his life and definitely knew what he was talking about. The ties are true. The argument regarding sunni and shiit did not apply. It was a relationship based a need and it trumped trible differences.</p>
<p>His explanation was more elaborate. After that, I didn&#8217;t need a report, to know the truth. I knew it was true.</p>
<p>The MSM will go out of their way to spin anything to fit their agenda. All of the reports and intelligence, will never change their stripes. If they can&#8217;t spin it, they won&#8217;t report it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/20/associated-press-blows-it-again-re-regime-ties-to-al-queda/#comment-27860</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love coming and seeing these posts and just picturing two smoking gun barrels in both of Scott&#039;s hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love coming and seeing these posts and just picturing two smoking gun barrels in both of Scott&#8217;s hands.</p>
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