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Mar

Obama Admits Lying in Philadelphia Speech

Posted by: Mike's America @ 8:50 am in Barack Obama

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Then goes on to give a speech filled with the same old failed class warfare rhetoric.

“The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation,” –Barack H. Obama, March 14, 2008

“Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.”
Barack H. Obama, March 18, 2007

Excerpts from:
A MORE PERFECT UNION
by Barack H. Obama
remarks as prepared for delivery
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
March 18th, 2008

…And yet words on a parchment would not be enough to deliver slaves from bondage, or provide men and women of every color and creed their full rights and obligations as citizens of the United States. What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part – through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time.

This was one of the tasks we set forth at the beginning of this campaign – to continue the long march of those who came before us, a march for a more just, more equal, more free, more caring and more prosperous America. I chose to run for the presidency at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together

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I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a Depression to serve in Patton’s Army during World War II and a white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth while he was overseas. I’ve gone to some of the best schools in America and lived in one of the world’s poorest nations. I am married to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and slaveowners – an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.

It’s a story that hasn’t made me the most conventional candidate. But it is a story that has seared into my genetic makeup the idea that this nation is more than the sum of its parts – that out of many, we are truly one.

Throughout the first year of this campaign, against all predictions to the contrary, we saw how hungry the American people were for this message of unity. Despite the temptation to view my candidacy through a purely racial lens, we won commanding victories in states with some of the whitest populations in the country. In South Carolina, where the Confederate Flag still flies, we built a powerful coalition of African Americans and white Americans.

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On one end of the spectrum, we’ve heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it’s based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap. On the other end, we’ve heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation; that rightly offend white and black alike.

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely – just as I’m sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.

But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren’t simply controversial. They weren’t simply a religious leader’s effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country – a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.

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I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
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Understanding this reality requires a reminder of how we arrived at this point. As William Faulkner once wrote, “The past isn’t dead and buried. In fact, it isn’t even past.” We do not need to recite here the history of racial injustice in this country. But we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow.

Segregated schools were, and are, inferior schools; we still haven’t fixed them, fifty years after Brown v. Board of Education, and the inferior education they provided, then and now, helps explain the pervasive achievement gap between today’s black and white students.

Legalized discrimination - where blacks were prevented, often through violence, from owning property, or loans were not granted to African-American business owners, or black homeowners could not access FHA mortgages, or blacks were excluded from unions, or the police force, or fire departments – meant that black families could not amass any meaningful wealth to bequeath to future generations. That history helps explain the wealth and income gap between black and white, and the concentrated pockets of poverty that persists in so many of today’s urban and rural communities.

A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one’s family, contributed to the erosion of black families – a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened. And the lack of basic services in so many urban black neighborhoods – parks for kids to play in, police walking the beat, regular garbage pick-up and building code enforcement – all helped create a cycle of violence, blight and neglect that continue to haunt us.

This is the reality in which Reverend Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up. They came of age in the late fifties and early sixties, a time when segregation was still the law of the land and opportunity was systematically constricted. What’s remarkable is not how many failed in the face of discrimination, but rather how many men and women overcame the odds; how many were able to make a way out of no way for those like me who would come after them.

But for all those who scratched and clawed their way to get a piece of the American Dream, there were many who didn’t make it – those who were ultimately defeated, in one way or another, by discrimination. That legacy of defeat was passed on to future generations – those young men and increasingly young women who we see standing on street corners or languishing in our prisons, without hope or prospects for the future. Even for those blacks who did make it, questions of race, and racism, continue to define their worldview in fundamental ways.

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Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze – a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.
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For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle – as we did in the OJ trial – or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright’s sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she’s playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.

We can do that.

But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we’ll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.

That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, “Not this time.” This time we want to talk about the crumbling schools that are stealing the future of black children and white children and Asian children and Hispanic children and Native American children. This time we want to reject the cynicism that tells us that these kids can’t learn; that those kids who don’t look like us are somebody else’s problem. The children of America are not those kids, they are our kids, and we will not let them fall behind in a 21st century economy. Not this time.

This time we want to talk about how the lines in the Emergency Room are filled with whites and blacks and Hispanics who do not have health care; who don’t have the power on their own to overcome the special interests in Washington, but who can take them on if we do it together.

This time we want to talk about the shuttered mills that once provided a decent life for men and women of every race, and the homes for sale that once belonged to Americans from every religion, every region, every walk of life. This time we want to talk about the fact that the real problem is not that someone who doesn’t look like you might take your job; it’s that the corporation you work for will ship it overseas for nothing more than a profit.

This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag. We want to talk about how to bring them home from a war that never should’ve been authorized and never should’ve been waged, and we want to talk about how we’ll show our patriotism by caring for them, and their families, and giving them the benefits they have earned.

A couple of thoughts:

Obama goes to great lengths to point out his own sensitivity to racial issues, especially considering his mixed race and heritage. He talks about his white grandmother and some of the racial remarks she uttered that made him “cringe.”

Yet, he admits he sat in Trinity Church and embraced a pastor who essentially blamed his white mother and grandparents for the ills of the black community.

Throughout the speech he made references to the poor quality of education available to African Americans. Yet, throughout his campaign he has embraced the teacher’s unions which continue to block any and all effective solutions put forward to deal with the problem.

He complained that “the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning.” But he had a choice on whether or not to attend that church. And he denies poor families the choice of where to send their children to school. If you want to help poor families educate their children, embrace school choice, not the current apratheid of government run schools.

He denounced evil corporations and their “short-term greed” and went on to condemn the current political culture as “a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many.” He goes on to suggest that this and lingering prejudices has left us with the resulted that “black families could not amass any meaningful wealth to bequeath to future generations.” And yet, Democrats like him have voted consistently to block the transfer of wealth to future generations through their insistence on the death tax, which strikes hardest at the small business owner.

Next, “Even for those blacks who did make it, questions of race, and racism, continue to define their worldview in fundamental ways.” No doubt they do when they look around their world and see this:

A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one’s family, contributed to the erosion of black families – a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened. And the lack of basic services in so many urban black neighborhoods – parks for kids to play in, police walking the beat, regular garbage pick-up and building code enforcement – all helped create a cycle of violence, blight and neglect that continue to haunt us.

Does it need to be pointed out again and again and again that Black voters continue to elect Democrats to office in those urban areas and fail to hold them accountable for the continuing failures of government which are so evident? Blaming white people and racism on the problem hasn’t solved it.

A good speech will not make the current Obamanation over Pastor Wright’s remarks go away. Especially when the only solutions Obama offers to the problems he describes are the same failed class warfare politics that Democrats have used to keep poor black voters on the plantation for years.

Obama isn’t offering anything new. But he sure makes the old whine sound better as he pours it from the bottle.

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26 comments so far

bbartlog
 1 

Bit of a reach for you, no? In the first quoted section, Obama is referring to some particular set of statements that are ‘the cause of this controversy’. In the second he’s making a more general admission that he heard Wright make controversial statements. Without knowing which specific statements Obama thinks are the ’cause of this controversy’ we can’t really say whether he’s contradicting himself (let alone lying).
Too bad we’re sending such a doddering retard to take on Obama. For a decent candidate beating this guy wouldn’t be that tough; instead we had to make it a fight by nominating someone who should be retiring.

March 18th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Curt
 2 

A Ron Paul supporter calling McCain a “doddering retard”….

Whoakay then

March 18th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Wordsmith
 3 

Obama Admits Lying in Philadelphia Speech

For some reason, I had to do a double take when I saw this under “recent posts”…..I thought it said something like “Obama admits Philadelphia Steve (lying)”

March 18th, 2008 at 9:54 am
 4 

Decided to stoke the fires eh Wordsmith? Just make sure you stick around to put it out.

March 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Igor R.
 5 

Obama is a Marxist in search of some race-based justification for his beliefs.

March 18th, 2008 at 11:20 am
David
 6 

On Mar 14 2008, Obama says: “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation …”

On Mar 18 2008, Obama says: “Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.”

On Mar 19 2008 and beyond, what will Obama say? If he can’t say it simply and truthfully on this, how does he expect to be president when a decision is needed? As for the old, tired class warfare rhetoric, nothing more than camoflauge.

March 18th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
bella
 7 

Nice try. But a no go.

You can cut and snip excerpts to make them “fit” your world view, continue to fuel hatred and division along class, racial and religious lines. This country doesn’t need any help in that department; the last eight years have had their destructive toll.

Editing to fit is nothing new. Perhaps the lying tag best fits this forum’s author.

March 19th, 2008 at 10:48 am
 8 

bella: I’m not the one who said “GOD DAMN AMERICA” or tried to blame every black persons problems on rich white people. But I am sure the hatemongers out there are glad that enablers like you are out there to give them a pass.

Truth: Obama said he had not heard Wright say those things. He admitted he had.
Truth: Obama told one interviewer that if he had heard those things, he would have spoken to the preacher. He didn’t.

If you want to stick your head in the sand, or some other place, and pretend that Obama isn’t lying on this issue you go right ahead.

It’s becoming more and more clear that Obama has been using people like you to give him the street cred that a Hawaii born prep school/Columbia and Harvard grad finds it hard to come by.

You should be ashamed of yourself for being used in this way to enable hate.

March 19th, 2008 at 11:02 am
mercurialohearn
 9 

“Truth: Obama said he had not heard Wright say those things. He admitted he had.”

for this “truth” of yours to be unequivocal, you must demonstrate how the specific statements to which obama refers in your first quotation are exactly the same statements he refers to in your second quotation.

you don’t do this at all, at all. you have fabricated a contradiction where none may exist, and you are asking your readers to accept it as axiomatic, while providing no proof whatsoever that this “truth” is, in fact, true.

perhaps those who are already blinded by an ideology, or who lack the critical reading and thinking skills to see through your ruse, will be fooled by your attempt to take two statements out of context and attempt to conflate them. but those who are wise to such sophomoric rhetorical tactics are fooled not at all. cast as many aspersions as you like on those in this forum who have pointed out your trickery. it only makes you seem more desperate and insincere.

“Truth: Obama told one interviewer that if he had heard those things, he would have spoken to the preacher. He didn’t.”

are you inventing facts out of whole cloth, here? how would you, or anyone else, know if obama had spoken to his minister about his inflammatory remarks? you also call this a truth, but a truth requires proof. without it, this is nothing more than hearsay. inasmuch as they are unsubstantiated allegations on your part, they hardly rise above reverend wright’s own controversial and divisive comments.

March 20th, 2008 at 12:48 am
 10 

Oh how funny! You people learned your lessons from Bill Clinton well. I’m surprised you are supporting Obama and not Hillary.

Only a complete fool would accept the tortured, twisted justification you have offered.

I realize there are a lot of fools out there. And nearly all of them are voting for Democrats.

In your zeal to defend Obama, perhaps you fail to realize that you are enabling the next generation of haters to ply their trade.

Shame on you.

March 20th, 2008 at 7:25 am
Doc Washboard
 11 

Mercurialohearn has a point. Can you provide a scrap of proof for your “truth?” If you could, I’d be more willing to accept what you say as fact.

March 20th, 2008 at 7:34 am
 12 

“The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation,” –Barack H. Obama, March 14, 2008

“Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.”
Barack H. Obama, March 18, 2007

Even a child in gradeschool can understand that. Interesting that you cannot.

March 20th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Doc Washboard
 13 

MA:

The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.

Okay. Bringing all my reading comprehension skills to bear on this. He is saying that he was not actually sitting in the pews when the YouTube clips were recorded.

Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.

I’m on a roll with that reading comprehension thing. I wonder if I can keep it going. Now he is saying that, while he wasn’t sitting in the pews during the recording of the YouTube clips, he did, in fact, hear Wright say controversial things at other times.

Hey! I made it! I read both quotes and understood them. Mommy, wow! I’m a big kid now!!!

I guess I’m not seeing the lie. Did you catch a glimpse of Obama in the room during one of the YouTube clips? That would make the first quote a lie. If you’ve found such proof, provide the link; I’d love to see it.

On the other hand, do you have proof that Obama never heard Wright say controversial things in the course of twenty years? That would be tougher to prove, and it would seem to run counter to your agenda, but again–if you have proof, I’d love to see it. It would make the second quote a lie.

Otherwise, as I’ve pointed out to you elsewhere, these two quotes–as you have juxtaposed them–are not evidence of a lie. They are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to have heard Wright say controversial things without having been present on one particular Sunday. In much the same way, I have seen you be illogical many times without having read every single illogical thing you have ever written.

I guess your case hinges on showing that Obama was, in fact, in the room when the much-discussed YouTube clips were recorded. Go for it, buddy; I encourage you to get to the bottom of the story. I didn’t vote for Obama in the primary; it’s no skin off my nose.

March 20th, 2008 at 9:32 am
 14 

The harder you try and spin that Doc, the more foolish you appear.

Keep it up. I have a hard time convincing some moderates and independents that anyone could be as stupid as you. Now, we have MORE proof.

March 20th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Doc Washboard
 15 

The words “spin” and “foolish” apparently don’t mean what you think they mean. Could it be that you’ve been blinded by Obama Derangement Syndrome? Or maybe just anti-black hatred? The way that you’re fabricating your “proof,” I’d guess that it is the latter.

Is this the same kind of thinking you did when you were in the Reagan Administration (if that’s true)? No wonder it was such a bowl full of losers.

March 20th, 2008 at 11:10 am
 16 

You really have sipped the Clinton Kool Aid Doc. And I’ll ignore your petty insults.

I would think that you would be eager to ask the question: “What did Obama hear and when did he hear it” but I don’t imagine you really care about the answer.

You really are what we call a “time waster.”

March 20th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Doc Washboard
 17 

I would think that you would be eager to ask the question: “What did Obama hear and when did he hear it” but I don’t imagine you really care about the answer.

For the eleventeenth time, I encourage you to find out. For the sake of the overall political discourse, however, I wish that you’d stick to the facts as you do it. It may very well be that Obama is lying his ass off about this and every other topic he addresses. He probably is; he’s a politician. But just taking two quotes, sticking them side by side and calling them evidence of lying–when, taken together, they are not proof of lying–is intellectually dishonest.

It’s like one of those teachers who suspends a kid for something he knows the kid didn’t do, but he rationalizes it by telling himself, “Well, I’m sure that the kid did things in the past that I didn’t catch, so I’m not really doing anything wrong.”

I’d be interested in you telling me which of the two sentences you’ve juxtaposed up above is the lie.

In other news, I didn’t vote for Clinton in my primary, either. What conceivable part of what I’ve written shows that I’ve “sipped the Clinton Kool Aid?” The part about where I chastise you for your Obama Derangement Syndrome? In one thread, you take me from mindlessly following Obama to mindlessly following Clinton. The very suggestion shows that you either know nothing at all about the Clinton/Obama dynamic, or you are another one of those Internet scribblers who chooses a catchphrase from a list of talking points–in this case, “Sipping the Kool-Aid”–wedges it into your post, and calls it a day. Maybe you should think before you hit the “send” button, MA.

Oh, and you’re going to ignore my petty insults? Big of you, pal, after what you’ve called me here and elsewhere. You’re a real standup guy.

March 20th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
 18 

“For the eleventeenth time, I encourage you to find out. ” Sorry Doc, but you’ve shown a REMARKABLE ability to ignore anything that the rest of us have learned. Are you SO completely ill-equipped to get the answers to these questions?

I PERSONALLY confronted John McCain with the weak points of his appeal to conservatives. I would think you would want to do the same for Obama, but obviously you do not care.

Transparently, you’ll swallow the Kool Aid you are served.

March 20th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Doc Washboard
 19 

I’d be interested in you telling me which of the two sentences you’ve juxtaposed up above is the lie.

Your continued silence on this issue says volumes about your inability to think your way out of a wet paper bag.

Remember: the reason that the guy snarled, “I don’t got to show you no stinkin’ badges,” is because he had no badges to show. A lot of what you post here has the same hollow bluster to it.

March 20th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
 20 

Nice try Doc. But if a “Doc” can’t cure a LAME analogy, there is no hope.

You want to be the class fool, fine by me.

You have my vote.

Your next insult on this thread will be deleted. Have fun writing the Huffington Post and telling them what a hero you are.

March 20th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Doc Washboard
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March 20th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
ChrisG
 22 

Or maybe just anti-black hatred?

I may have been gone a few days Doc, but in light of your quote above, you might want to rethink your above post. Also, read Mikes original post. I believe it answers your question in the first two quotes from Obama.

March 20th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Mike
 23 

Obama is pandering to black people!!
Obama forgot to mention while going on about his white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth. He forgot tto mention evidently not during a war, that white granny was a Bank Vice President (Like Mr Drysdale on Beverly Hillbillys)…they make huge money…hardly so humble as he portrays. His black father and the Kenya thing, Obama’s father was dead by the time he was two..I doubt he even knew him……..and Obama had never been to Kenya until the 1980’s
The poor old black granny who lives in a hut in Kenya..was one of his fathers 3 wives the third one…she wasn’t even related to him. She is the one Sarah who lied about the muslim thing saying she wasn’t a muslim she was christian!!….only it had already been in a Times article that she claimed in her own words she was a devout muslim.
So I agree with the hiding of this muslim part of his life in Indonesia…that is where his memories and formative years would be living with his mother and stepfather (a muslim) from 6yrs to 10yrs old when he went to the Wahabbist Madrassa, and then moving to Hawaii with his white mothers parents after 10 through high school. So why all the talk about Kenya…is just to relate to black people for political purposes

April 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

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