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Democrat Race a Quagmire, a Civil War with No Exit Strategy

Posted by: Mike's America @ 10:02 am in Politics | 1 views

Democrats show they cannot even run a political party, let a lone a country!

For Democrats, Increased Fears of a Long Fight
By ADAM NAGOURNEY and JEFF ZELENY
New York Times
March 16, 2008

WASHINGTON — Lacking a clear route to the selection of a Democratic presidential nominee, the party’s uncommitted superdelegates say they are growing increasingly concerned about the risks of a prolonged fight between Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, and perplexed about how to resolve the conflict.

“It would be nice to find a way to wrap it up,” said Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who has not committed to either candidate. “If the current trajectory of the debate continues, the divisions will make it more difficult for many of our candidates.”

“This was everybody’s worse nightmare come to fruition,” said Richard Machacek, an uncommitted superdelegate from Iowa, who said he was struggling over what to do.

Eileen Macoll, a Democratic county chairwoman from Washington State, is expecting something different — and not exactly looking forward to it. “I think it’s going to go all the way to the floor,” Ms. Macoll said. “We will take the vote and that will be the nominee. We’re going to see that happen.”

“Every day that this continues, people can surmise that this is going to the convention in Colorado and it could be decided by the superdelegates,” said Gov. Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, the head of the Democratic Governors Association. “There is not a superdelegate that I have spoken to who wants that to happen.”

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Scott

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

OMG, I snarfed coca-cola all over my desk

THANKS!

THAT WAS AWESOME!

March 16th, 2008 at 10:39 am

BarbaraS

Not only is the democrat party imploding but just think how the winner will react to those delegates who did not vote for him/her. Pay back is hell. If Hillary wins…what? Will the delegates who deserted her be audited by the IRS every year she is in office? Or will she simply destroy them after wringing every drop of blood possible from their cold, cold bodies.

March 16th, 2008 at 11:15 am

Gregory Dittman

Pelosi has it wrong (again). The superdelegates were created to prevent the people from voting for a Democrat in the primaries which wouldn’t win in the general election. They are part electrorial college for the Democrats. That means that they were created so that they may go against the popular vote, otherwise they would serve no purpose.

BarbaraS has it right. These superdelegates are the people that get invited to the parties and the superdelegate that votes for the wrong person may get less party invitations. That’s the real reason why the superdelegates are perplexed.

March 16th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

Machiavelli

It’s a lot of fun reading about the civil war that the Democratic Party has on its hands now, but we must remember that it is pre-mature to declare victory yet. McCain will likely have the advantage until a nominee is decided upon at the Democratic convention. After that, I guarantee you that the MSM will go into overdrive pushing the line that the Republicans in Washington have “failed us” and that the only way for America to save itself is to go with the Democrats. The ground work has already been laid with “the failing economy” line that dominates the news. We can’t rest on our laurels until the election safely won; just my two cents on the matter.

March 16th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

Mike's America

Absolutely right Machiavelli (who by the way was one of my favorite philosophers and wrongfully malinged for telling the truth).

March 16th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

Machiavelli

Between Machiavelli, Clausewitz, and Sun Tzu you can get quite the full political education. If they’ve been maligned or not, I tend to base my evaluation on whether the veracity of their words has been bore out over the course of history.
It’s a nasty truth, but even if it is “bad press,” Clinton and Obama get a lot more time in the limelight. McCain has won, and the party seems to be unifying behind him, but the downside is that he’s not getting much press (which in my view is by MSM design). As in 2004, it’s the responsibility of the blogosphere to keep the public informed, and McCain’s name on their minds.

March 16th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

Philadelphia Steve

Recall Conservatives on this very site, booming out “I’ll stay home if McCain is nominated” less than a month ago.

As much as Conservative outlets such as FoxNews trumpet otherwise, Democrats may possibly unite behind their candidate as well, just as all you Republicans did.

March 17th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

Wordsmith

As much as Conservative outlets such as FoxNews trumpet otherwise,

Your obsessive caricaturizing of conservatives ignores Mike citing from the NYTimes, as well as never having stated “Ill stay home if McCain is nominated”. You only hear those who you wish to hear, and filter out those conservative voices who don’t fit your spin cycle.

March 17th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Scott

Or not.
“As much as Conservative outlets such as FoxNews trumpet otherwise, Democrats may possibly unite behind their candidate as well, just as all you Republicans did.”
The Clinton Civil War

[A] coup by super delegate would sunder the party in civil war.

Clinton knows this, it’s her only path to victory, and she doesn’t care. She is willing — nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power.

If the situations were reversed, and Obama was lagging in the delegates, popular vote, states won, money raised, and every other reasonable measure, then I’d feel the same way about Obama. (I pulled the plug early on Dean in 2004.) But that’s not the case.

It is Clinton, with no reasonable chance of victory, who is fomenting civil war in order to overturn the will of the Democratic electorate. As such, as far as I’m concerned, she doesn’t deserve “fairness” on this site. All sexist attacks will be dealt with — those will never be acceptable. But otherwise, Clinton has set an inevitably divisive course and must be dealt with appropriately.

To reiterate, she cannot win without overturning the will of the national Democratic electorate and fomenting civil war, and she doesn’t care.

March 17th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

luva the scissors

really, this is so much fun to watch. they are imploding right before our very eyes. she feels she deserves the nomination, after all she was first lady and it should just be hers. he thinks it should be his because this nation owes his people, after all we gave them the kkk and aids and all. i love this. they are demented.

March 17th, 2008 at 6:13 pm