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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; WMDs Found! (i.e., Weapons of Media Distortions)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; WMDs Found! (i.e., Weapons of Media Distortions)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] justification for war was more than about wmd finds; and began long before Bush&#8217;s watch. Read Douglas Feith&#8217;s War and Decision. Read Scott Malensek&#8217;s series of posts covering the Iraqi Perspectives Project and Select [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] justification for war was more than about wmd finds; and began long before Bush&#8217;s watch. Read Douglas Feith&#8217;s War and Decision. Read Scott Malensek&#8217;s series of posts covering the Iraqi Perspectives Project and Select [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Seriously&#8230;.what happened?&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Seriously&#8230;.what happened?&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/09/the-new-douglas-feith-book-on-iraq/#comment-37997</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The WaPo writes a dismissive article today on the new book written by Douglas Feith&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In regards to WaPo beliefs, this excerpt from &lt;a href=&quot;http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/transcripts/Transcript.aspx?ContentGuid=0302c1f5-d54c-426f-9b1c-56658b64ecfb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a Feith interview&lt;/a&gt; puts it into an interesting context:
&lt;blockquote&gt;HH: I was reading with great interest the various, I guess I can call them accounts, of the Inspector General’s report. They were fundamentally flawed and very unfair. Has the media caught up with the reality of this report yet, Mr. Feith?

DF: Not really. &lt;b&gt;The main media screw-up, which was really extraordinary and very damaging, was the Washington Post on February 9th, ran a story where they had in their headline, and in their opening paragraphs, they had quotes attacking me and the work that my office did, and they said that those quotes came from the Inspector General report, when in fact, they came from office releases of Senator Levin. And it created a terrible impression, because it was purple language used to attack me, and it was attributed to the Inspector General, but it was really just from Senator Levin, and it was a terrible error. The Washington Post ran a big correction to it, but in the meantime, newspapers all over the world, and television all over the world, picked up on those false quotations, and said that I was being attacked by the Inspector General for things that the Inspector General in fact didn’t say that I did.&lt;/b&gt;

HH: I assume you’re familiar with Mark Twain’s a lie is halfway around the world before truth gets its boots on.

DF: I know it very well.

HH: Now, you’ve lived it. Has the truth caught up with the lie?

DF: No, it hasn’t even come close, because &lt;b&gt;there’s no way in the world that the correction can get anything like the attention that the original quotations got.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The WaPo writes a dismissive article today on the new book written by Douglas Feith</p></blockquote>
<p>In regards to WaPo beliefs, this excerpt from <a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/transcripts/Transcript.aspx?ContentGuid=0302c1f5-d54c-426f-9b1c-56658b64ecfb" rel="nofollow">a Feith interview</a> puts it into an interesting context:</p>
<blockquote><p>HH: I was reading with great interest the various, I guess I can call them accounts, of the Inspector General’s report. They were fundamentally flawed and very unfair. Has the media caught up with the reality of this report yet, Mr. Feith?</p>
<p>DF: Not really. <b>The main media screw-up, which was really extraordinary and very damaging, was the Washington Post on February 9th, ran a story where they had in their headline, and in their opening paragraphs, they had quotes attacking me and the work that my office did, and they said that those quotes came from the Inspector General report, when in fact, they came from office releases of Senator Levin. And it created a terrible impression, because it was purple language used to attack me, and it was attributed to the Inspector General, but it was really just from Senator Levin, and it was a terrible error. The Washington Post ran a big correction to it, but in the meantime, newspapers all over the world, and television all over the world, picked up on those false quotations, and said that I was being attacked by the Inspector General for things that the Inspector General in fact didn’t say that I did.</b></p>
<p>HH: I assume you’re familiar with Mark Twain’s a lie is halfway around the world before truth gets its boots on.</p>
<p>DF: I know it very well.</p>
<p>HH: Now, you’ve lived it. Has the truth caught up with the lie?</p>
<p>DF: No, it hasn’t even come close, because <b>there’s no way in the world that the correction can get anything like the attention that the original quotations got.</b> </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Feith Connection</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/09/the-new-douglas-feith-book-on-iraq/#comment-37994</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Feith Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feith has been much maligned by Iraq war opponents. In advance of his book release last Tuesday, 60 Minutes ran an interview with Feith, one of the architects of the Iraq War, last [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While there may have been contcts, there never was enough to justify war on the basis of ties between the two. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And who in the world said that was the only reason we went to war.  There were multiple reasons for it, and Bush laid them all out prior to the invasion.

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it’s going to boil down to “it’s everyone’s fault save mine and Rumsfeld’s.” Sheesh.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Rofl....and this is different from the multiple books from the left on this subject that say A) Iraq was wrong and B) it was Bush&#039;s fault alone?

Books from principals involved in any administration tend to twist the reality a bit to ensure their own legacy is not hurt as badly, and this includes the lefty administrations.  Its just human nature.  But there is also lots of additional evidence that show Feiths views to be correct, at least what I have read of the book so far.

But believe me, I have no illusion that lefties will suddenly believe this stuff....they have invested so much into the Bushitler world view that if they were to come to grip with reality their whole world would fall apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While there may have been contcts, there never was enough to justify war on the basis of ties between the two. </p></blockquote>
<p>And who in the world said that was the only reason we went to war.  There were multiple reasons for it, and Bush laid them all out prior to the invasion.</p>
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it’s going to boil down to “it’s everyone’s fault save mine and Rumsfeld’s.” Sheesh.</p></blockquote>
<p>Rofl&#8230;.and this is different from the multiple books from the left on this subject that say A) Iraq was wrong and B) it was Bush&#8217;s fault alone?</p>
<p>Books from principals involved in any administration tend to twist the reality a bit to ensure their own legacy is not hurt as badly, and this includes the lefty administrations.  Its just human nature.  But there is also lots of additional evidence that show Feiths views to be correct, at least what I have read of the book so far.</p>
<p>But believe me, I have no illusion that lefties will suddenly believe this stuff&#8230;.they have invested so much into the Bushitler world view that if they were to come to grip with reality their whole world would fall apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/09/the-new-douglas-feith-book-on-iraq/#comment-24247</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter&#039;s wrong.  The core of his argument is this idea that Saddam&#039;s regime and AQ would never work together because of religious differences, yet that&#039;s exactly what they did during the invasion and occupation.  During the invasion, Islamic Holy Warriors (re AQ) worked with Saddam&#039;s regime by the thousands.  Now, the talking point is that this only happened &quot;after the war started,&quot; but in reality Saddam constantly believed himself to be at war with the US since 1991, and AQ was rebuilt/reactivated in 12/92 to fight a war against the US.  Moreover, Peter ignores not only the bodies found during and since the invasion, not only the terrorist training camps that US Marines overran and occupy to this day, not only the hundreds of regime leaders captured working with AQ, but he also ignores the captured documents from AQ, foreign sources, and from the regime...all of which confirm there was a relationship, and that relationship was closer than US intel could admit.  Peter&#039;s simply wrong-drastically wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter&#8217;s wrong.  The core of his argument is this idea that Saddam&#8217;s regime and AQ would never work together because of religious differences, yet that&#8217;s exactly what they did during the invasion and occupation.  During the invasion, Islamic Holy Warriors (re AQ) worked with Saddam&#8217;s regime by the thousands.  Now, the talking point is that this only happened &#8220;after the war started,&#8221; but in reality Saddam constantly believed himself to be at war with the US since 1991, and AQ was rebuilt/reactivated in 12/92 to fight a war against the US.  Moreover, Peter ignores not only the bodies found during and since the invasion, not only the terrorist training camps that US Marines overran and occupy to this day, not only the hundreds of regime leaders captured working with AQ, but he also ignores the captured documents from AQ, foreign sources, and from the regime&#8230;all of which confirm there was a relationship, and that relationship was closer than US intel could admit.  Peter&#8217;s simply wrong-drastically wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: wesmorgan1</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesmorgan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feith&#039;s book will be an interesting read.  If this article is any indication, it&#039;s going to boil down to &quot;it&#039;s everyone&#039;s fault save mine and Rumsfeld&#039;s.&quot;  Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feith&#8217;s book will be an interesting read.  If this article is any indication, it&#8217;s going to boil down to &#8220;it&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s fault save mine and Rumsfeld&#8217;s.&#8221;  Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there may have been contcts, there never was enough to justify war on the basis of ties between the two.  And that is what Feithand his crew did. Former National Security Council counterterrorism directors Daniel Benjamin and Steven Simon summarized  the Bush Administration&#039;s view  : &quot;The administration pressed its case for war most emphatically by arguing that U.S. national security was imperiled by Saddam&#039;s ties to al-Qaeda. The argument had the obvious virtue of playing to the public&#039;s desire to see the war on terrorism prosecuted aggressively and conclusively. Yet, scant proof of these links was presented. The record showed a small number of contacts between jihadists and Iraqi officials. This was treated as the tip of an unseen iceberg of cooperation, even though it fell far short of anything that resembled significant cooperation in the eyes of the counterterrorism community -- as it always had. No persuasive proof was given of money, weaponry, or training being provided.&quot;

Further, remember that Feith suggested attacking targets in South America after 9/11.  He offered that nobody would be expecting that.  In that he was correct. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there may have been contcts, there never was enough to justify war on the basis of ties between the two.  And that is what Feithand his crew did. Former National Security Council counterterrorism directors Daniel Benjamin and Steven Simon summarized  the Bush Administration&#8217;s view  : &#8220;The administration pressed its case for war most emphatically by arguing that U.S. national security was imperiled by Saddam&#8217;s ties to al-Qaeda. The argument had the obvious virtue of playing to the public&#8217;s desire to see the war on terrorism prosecuted aggressively and conclusively. Yet, scant proof of these links was presented. The record showed a small number of contacts between jihadists and Iraqi officials. This was treated as the tip of an unseen iceberg of cooperation, even though it fell far short of anything that resembled significant cooperation in the eyes of the counterterrorism community &#8212; as it always had. No persuasive proof was given of money, weaponry, or training being provided.&#8221;</p>
<p>Further, remember that Feith suggested attacking targets in South America after 9/11.  He offered that nobody would be expecting that.  In that he was correct. </p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

I have no references on the charges you state.  However, I contradict your claims that Saddam and AQ did not work together.  Saddam did not love AQ, nor they him, but they did work together and Saddam gave medical aid to AQ and allowed members of the Taliban to settle in an area West-South-West of what is now the Green Zone. 

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/10/26/why-iraq/

So what has come out to &quot;debunk that myth&quot;???  Odd that when I was in Iraq, the Iraqis told me the only myth was Saddam not working with terrorists.  He did, from the PLO (which he sent checks to homicide bomber families) to AQ (who he gave medical aid, material support, and training facilities to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I have no references on the charges you state.  However, I contradict your claims that Saddam and AQ did not work together.  Saddam did not love AQ, nor they him, but they did work together and Saddam gave medical aid to AQ and allowed members of the Taliban to settle in an area West-South-West of what is now the Green Zone. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/10/26/why-iraq/" rel="nofollow">http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/10/26/why-iraq/</a></p>
<p>So what has come out to &#8220;debunk that myth&#8221;???  Odd that when I was in Iraq, the Iraqis told me the only myth was Saddam not working with terrorists.  He did, from the PLO (which he sent checks to homicide bomber families) to AQ (who he gave medical aid, material support, and training facilities to.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/09/the-new-douglas-feith-book-on-iraq/#comment-24164</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he&#039;s also the guy that got his security clearances pulled for giving classified information to a foreign Embassy.  And just because he testified to something, doesn&#039;t make it true or correct. He is obsesed with claiming there were ties between AQ and the Iraqi government.  There weren&#039;t and Hussein&#039;s people had a strong animus against AQ.  Remember that government was secular, and AQ is fanatically religious.  What has come out subsequently has debunked that myth-- one that Feith continues to peddle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he&#8217;s also the guy that got his security clearances pulled for giving classified information to a foreign Embassy.  And just because he testified to something, doesn&#8217;t make it true or correct. He is obsesed with claiming there were ties between AQ and the Iraqi government.  There weren&#8217;t and Hussein&#8217;s people had a strong animus against AQ.  Remember that government was secular, and AQ is fanatically religious.  What has come out subsequently has debunked that myth&#8211; one that Feith continues to peddle.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s also the guy that Democrats claimed manipulated the pre-war intel re regime ties to AQ.  I liked that one 48hrs after his office gave the briefing that Dems say was so misleading...the CIA put out a pamphlet making everything clear.  Feith&#039;s no hero of mine, but he&#039;s perhaps the Democrats&#039; biggest scapegoat when it comes to Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s also the guy that Democrats claimed manipulated the pre-war intel re regime ties to AQ.  I liked that one 48hrs after his office gave the briefing that Dems say was so misleading&#8230;the CIA put out a pamphlet making everything clear.  Feith&#8217;s no hero of mine, but he&#8217;s perhaps the Democrats&#8217; biggest scapegoat when it comes to Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Proctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember Douglas Feith! He&#039;s the former Pentagon policy chief who testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee a year ago that &lt;a href=&quot;http://amyproctor.squarespace.com/blog/2007/2/12/mediadems-continue-to-mislead-on-pre-war-intelligence.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bush and his administration did not mislead on pre-war intelligence.&lt;/a&gt;

As I recall, the Democrats didn&#039;t like that part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Douglas Feith! He&#8217;s the former Pentagon policy chief who testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee a year ago that <a href="http://amyproctor.squarespace.com/blog/2007/2/12/mediadems-continue-to-mislead-on-pre-war-intelligence.html" rel="nofollow">Bush and his administration did not mislead on pre-war intelligence.</a></p>
<p>As I recall, the Democrats didn&#8217;t like that part.</p>
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