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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Obama&#8217;s Naive Positions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Obama&#8217;s Naive Positions</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] America for so much of the worlds ills is that close to the White House. Even better they watch his wife tell crowds how bad this country is and listen to his mentor telling them that America got it&#8217;s wake-up call on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] America for so much of the worlds ills is that close to the White House. Even better they watch his wife tell crowds how bad this country is and listen to his mentor telling them that America got it&#8217;s wake-up call on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/04/michelle-obama-were-downright-mean/#comment-23341</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have no need to do your work for you. You can look it up by using the categories and clicking on the many posts myself and the other authors have done&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll point him a little in the right direction, Curt.


&lt;blockquote&gt;current thinking is that should they (dem’s) win, liberal scotus (one or two) will retire &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s one view.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/americas-imperfect-servant/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s another&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;In the next four to eight years, we can anticipate that there will be at least two and perhaps as many as five new appointments to the Court. &lt;/b&gt;As of November 2008, when the next president will be elected, the ages of the current justices will be as follows:&lt;b&gt; John Paul Stevens (88), Ruth Bader Ginsburg (75), Antonin Scalia (72), Anthony Kennedy (72), Stephen Breyer (70)&lt;/b&gt;, David Souter (69), Clarence Thomas (60), Samuel Alito (58), and John Roberts (53). The good news for Republicans is that the three youngest justices are solid conservatives, while the two oldest are strident liberals. These two, Stevens and Ginsburg, almost certainly will leave the bench during the next president’s tenure in office. By 2016, Kennedy, Breyer, and/or Souter (not to mention Scalia) also may succumb to age or infirmity. Replacing these justices with solid conservatives may finally accomplish the conservative counter-revolution on the Supreme Court that Republicans have worked tirelessly to achieve for decades.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;so there will be zero net gain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Should Stevens and Ginsburg retire in the next 4 years, there will be zero net gain should conservatives like you sit on your hands and allow a liberal Democratic Party president to sit in the Oval Office, appointing replacement Justices.  Kiss off any chance of seeing Roe v. Wade overturned in your lifetime.

&lt;blockquote&gt;based on mccains past performance if you believe you’ll get some conservative justice you must be smokin some of that stuff you pull off the perps you arrest (name calling on my part)…based on past performance the best you can hope for out of mccain is another sandra day oconner or with a democratically controlled congress and repubs lead by arlen spectre do you tryly believe mccain won’t simply reach across the isle (as is his mo) and give the left what it wants? in either case wade vs roe remains on the books, mcain or dem’s in office PERIOD.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/15/making-the-right-choice/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Planned Parenthood disagrees&lt;/a&gt; with you:

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Senator McCain has supported every conservative judge who has ever come up for nomination, including in the lower courts.

&lt;blockquote&gt;i could list one example after another&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then please list them.  

I&#039;ve done you the courtesy of providing you the time of day; the least you could do is back up some of you arguments with &quot;evidence&quot;, since you criticized us of offering none, ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have no need to do your work for you. You can look it up by using the categories and clicking on the many posts myself and the other authors have done</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll point him a little in the right direction, Curt.</p>
<blockquote><p>current thinking is that should they (dem’s) win, liberal scotus (one or two) will retire </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s one view.  <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/americas-imperfect-servant/" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s another</a>:<br />
<blockquote><b>In the next four to eight years, we can anticipate that there will be at least two and perhaps as many as five new appointments to the Court. </b>As of November 2008, when the next president will be elected, the ages of the current justices will be as follows:<b> John Paul Stevens (88), Ruth Bader Ginsburg (75), Antonin Scalia (72), Anthony Kennedy (72), Stephen Breyer (70)</b>, David Souter (69), Clarence Thomas (60), Samuel Alito (58), and John Roberts (53). The good news for Republicans is that the three youngest justices are solid conservatives, while the two oldest are strident liberals. These two, Stevens and Ginsburg, almost certainly will leave the bench during the next president’s tenure in office. By 2016, Kennedy, Breyer, and/or Souter (not to mention Scalia) also may succumb to age or infirmity. Replacing these justices with solid conservatives may finally accomplish the conservative counter-revolution on the Supreme Court that Republicans have worked tirelessly to achieve for decades.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>so there will be zero net gain.</p></blockquote>
<p>Should Stevens and Ginsburg retire in the next 4 years, there will be zero net gain should conservatives like you sit on your hands and allow a liberal Democratic Party president to sit in the Oval Office, appointing replacement Justices.  Kiss off any chance of seeing Roe v. Wade overturned in your lifetime.</p>
<blockquote><p>based on mccains past performance if you believe you’ll get some conservative justice you must be smokin some of that stuff you pull off the perps you arrest (name calling on my part)…based on past performance the best you can hope for out of mccain is another sandra day oconner or with a democratically controlled congress and repubs lead by arlen spectre do you tryly believe mccain won’t simply reach across the isle (as is his mo) and give the left what it wants? in either case wade vs roe remains on the books, mcain or dem’s in office PERIOD.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/15/making-the-right-choice/" rel="nofollow">Planned Parenthood disagrees</a> with you:</p>
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<p>Senator McCain has supported every conservative judge who has ever come up for nomination, including in the lower courts.</p>
<blockquote><p>i could list one example after another</p></blockquote>
<p>Then please list them.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done you the courtesy of providing you the time of day; the least you could do is back up some of you arguments with &#8220;evidence&#8221;, since you criticized us of offering none, ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/04/michelle-obama-were-downright-mean/#comment-23337</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>name calling?  Get a grip.  Stating that your position is sad and pathetic is not name calling.

&lt;blockquote&gt;in response never once did you offer any evidence or support of your belief in what would occur with dem’s in office&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I offer evidence every single day on this blog with my posts.  I have no need to do your work for you.  You can look it up by using the categories and clicking on the many posts myself and the other authors have done on Hillary, on Obama, on McCain.  These posts show beyond a shadow of a doubt what these liberals would do....hell, they told us themselves.  

A McCain pick for SCOTUS would most definitely be more conservative then someone Obama or Hillary picks.  We KNOW what kind of jurist they would pick.  We KNOW McCain has supported some very conservative justices.  Not only SCOTUS, with HillBama we KNOW what they will do with gun control laws....there will be more of em.  We KNOW Socialized health care will become a reality. We KNOW our taxes will be raised to help fund new bureaucracy&#039;s and to ensure the people of Africa don&#039;t starve.  We know abortion laws will be loosened even more then they are.  Law enforcement?  Forget about it....putting away criminals will become even harder then it is now.  

But the biggie....we KNOW HillBama will destroy this countries national security even worse then her husband did.  Intelligence gathering...forget about it.  Wiretaps on terrorists...forget about it.

But your ok with all that.....that is, as I stated, sad and pathetic.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It makes no sense to believe that the answer to moving the country further to the right, is by allowing in more liberal democrats to hold office seats. Just to teach the Republican Party a lesson and to “prove” to the country how bad Democrats are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Makes no sense to me either Word....their puritan vision of a perfect party will do nothing but ensure our country has to recover from another Carter for the next 20 years.  I&#039;m a patriot to this country first and foremost.  Party&#039;s and ideology come a distance second to this.  I will NOT sell this country down the river for a party or a ideology.  I KNOW what those two Socialists will do to this country and to offer ridiculous arguments that McCain is no different then those two is beyond ignorant....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>name calling?  Get a grip.  Stating that your position is sad and pathetic is not name calling.</p>
<blockquote><p>in response never once did you offer any evidence or support of your belief in what would occur with dem’s in office</p></blockquote>
<p>I offer evidence every single day on this blog with my posts.  I have no need to do your work for you.  You can look it up by using the categories and clicking on the many posts myself and the other authors have done on Hillary, on Obama, on McCain.  These posts show beyond a shadow of a doubt what these liberals would do&#8230;.hell, they told us themselves.  </p>
<p>A McCain pick for SCOTUS would most definitely be more conservative then someone Obama or Hillary picks.  We KNOW what kind of jurist they would pick.  We KNOW McCain has supported some very conservative justices.  Not only SCOTUS, with HillBama we KNOW what they will do with gun control laws&#8230;.there will be more of em.  We KNOW Socialized health care will become a reality. We KNOW our taxes will be raised to help fund new bureaucracy&#8217;s and to ensure the people of Africa don&#8217;t starve.  We know abortion laws will be loosened even more then they are.  Law enforcement?  Forget about it&#8230;.putting away criminals will become even harder then it is now.  </p>
<p>But the biggie&#8230;.we KNOW HillBama will destroy this countries national security even worse then her husband did.  Intelligence gathering&#8230;forget about it.  Wiretaps on terrorists&#8230;forget about it.</p>
<p>But your ok with all that&#8230;..that is, as I stated, sad and pathetic.</p>
<blockquote><p>It makes no sense to believe that the answer to moving the country further to the right, is by allowing in more liberal democrats to hold office seats. Just to teach the Republican Party a lesson and to “prove” to the country how bad Democrats are.</p></blockquote>
<p>Makes no sense to me either Word&#8230;.their puritan vision of a perfect party will do nothing but ensure our country has to recover from another Carter for the next 20 years.  I&#8217;m a patriot to this country first and foremost.  Party&#8217;s and ideology come a distance second to this.  I will NOT sell this country down the river for a party or a ideology.  I KNOW what those two Socialists will do to this country and to offer ridiculous arguments that McCain is no different then those two is beyond ignorant&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: row</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/04/michelle-obama-were-downright-mean/#comment-23318</link>
		<dc:creator>row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my first two posts were personal opinion..never claimed they were otherwise, just trying to express myself.

in responce never once did you offer any evidence or support of your belief in what would occur with dem&#039;s in office....you then felt it necessary to proceed with labeling and name calling.

facts about mcains leanings are self evident...i supplied one in the form of his ACU rating (an 80 is a MINIMAL requirement to be considered conservative, he fails). you&#039;ve offered zip, zero, nada, nothing...hot air

with regards to your ascertion that America will go to hell in a bread basket based on dem&#039;s ability to place the scotus, current thinking is that should they (dem&#039;s) win, liberal scotus (one or two) will retire so there will be zero net gain. based on mccains past performance if you believe you&#039;ll get some conservative justice you must be smokin some of that stuff you pull off the perps you arrest (name calling on my part)...based on past performance the best you can hope for out of mccain is another sandra day oconner or with a democratically controlled congress and repubs lead by arlen spectre do you tryly believe mccain won&#039;t simply reach across the isle (as is his mo) and give the left what it wants? in either case wade vs roe remains on the books, mcain or dem&#039;s in office PERIOD.

the party has gone astray...this has nothing to do with &quot;purism&quot; the last 7 years are proof positive. i could list one example after another but i&#039;m afraid as with lemmings you would continue your unabated march towards the cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my first two posts were personal opinion..never claimed they were otherwise, just trying to express myself.</p>
<p>in responce never once did you offer any evidence or support of your belief in what would occur with dem&#8217;s in office&#8230;.you then felt it necessary to proceed with labeling and name calling.</p>
<p>facts about mcains leanings are self evident&#8230;i supplied one in the form of his ACU rating (an 80 is a MINIMAL requirement to be considered conservative, he fails). you&#8217;ve offered zip, zero, nada, nothing&#8230;hot air</p>
<p>with regards to your ascertion that America will go to hell in a bread basket based on dem&#8217;s ability to place the scotus, current thinking is that should they (dem&#8217;s) win, liberal scotus (one or two) will retire so there will be zero net gain. based on mccains past performance if you believe you&#8217;ll get some conservative justice you must be smokin some of that stuff you pull off the perps you arrest (name calling on my part)&#8230;based on past performance the best you can hope for out of mccain is another sandra day oconner or with a democratically controlled congress and repubs lead by arlen spectre do you tryly believe mccain won&#8217;t simply reach across the isle (as is his mo) and give the left what it wants? in either case wade vs roe remains on the books, mcain or dem&#8217;s in office PERIOD.</p>
<p>the party has gone astray&#8230;this has nothing to do with &#8220;purism&#8221; the last 7 years are proof positive. i could list one example after another but i&#8217;m afraid as with lemmings you would continue your unabated march towards the cliff</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/04/michelle-obama-were-downright-mean/#comment-23307</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;what’s your point? &lt;/blockquote&gt;That you don&#039;t speak for Ronald Reagan; nor for all Reagan conservatives.  And that if only conservative purists comprised a political party, they&#039;d lose every election.

&lt;blockquote&gt;it doesn’t make mcain any more conservative…the loser’s most recent ACU rating was 65…on par with hildebeast!!! his lifetime rating is NOT 85 but 77.5 and only 73 since Bush has been in office. notice movement in any particular direction here?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Nothing new, you&#039;re telling me; it&#039;s in my earlier link:
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If John McCain is not a &quot;true&quot; conservative then how does one explain the fact that his ACU lifetime ranking is 82.3% (for you Fredheads, Fred Thompson&#039;s lifetime average is 86%- with his support of campaign finance reform &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/fred_thompson_who_is_this_guy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;apparently knocking off&lt;/a&gt; anywhere from 4%-12% from his rating)?    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acuratings.org/2006all.htm#AZ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In 2006&lt;/a&gt;, yes it was 65%.  Putting him in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;47th place&lt;/a&gt; among Senators, for that year.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/83e46c29-567d-483f-85e1-90769c76e061&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;But&lt;/a&gt; for his quarter century service in the Senate, how can people claim he has not been conservative?  Maybe not the kind of conservative we wish him to be, but a conservative, nonetheless.

Trent Lott&#039;s got one of the most conservative voting records for 3 decades, at 92.4%.  He has vigorously come out in defense of McCain.  Is he wrong in emphatically defending McCain&#039;s conservative credentials, even as he has been in disagreement on issues with the Arizona Senator, through the years?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hillary&#039;s ACU ranking is 9%.  It&#039;s ridiculous emotional hyperbole to say &quot;there&#039;s no difference between her and McCain&quot;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;did not come here to fight, just express myself, i apologize for any i’ve offended.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No offense, taken or given.  Just expressing ourselves, as well.

&lt;blockquote&gt;if we able to survive four years of the peanut head we can survive anything&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I seriously do not understand this sort of thinking.  We are still suffering from Carter&#039;s mistakes (one half of the Islamic militancy we face today, I believe we can trace back to the failures of the Carter Administration to back the Shah from collapse at the hands of the Khomeinites).

It is also wishful thinking to believe that subjecting the country to a Hillary or Obama presidency will make Americans come around to be rescued by the 2nd coming of Reagan (where is he?).  If 3-5 SCOTUS appointments happen within the next 1-2 terms....are you willing to allow the Justices to be appointed by a Democratic president or a wishy-washy Republican one (who has been strong on supporting conservative judges)?

It makes no sense to believe that the answer to moving the country further to the right, is by allowing in more liberal democrats to hold office seats.  Just to teach the Republican Party a lesson and to &quot;prove&quot; to the country how bad Democrats are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>what’s your point? </p></blockquote>
<p>That you don&#8217;t speak for Ronald Reagan; nor for all Reagan conservatives.  And that if only conservative purists comprised a political party, they&#8217;d lose every election.</p>
<blockquote><p>it doesn’t make mcain any more conservative…the loser’s most recent ACU rating was 65…on par with hildebeast!!! his lifetime rating is NOT 85 but 77.5 and only 73 since Bush has been in office. notice movement in any particular direction here?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing new, you&#8217;re telling me; it&#8217;s in my earlier link:</p>
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If John McCain is not a &#8220;true&#8221; conservative then how does one explain the fact that his ACU lifetime ranking is 82.3% (for you Fredheads, Fred Thompson&#8217;s lifetime average is 86%- with his support of campaign finance reform <a href="http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/fred_thompson_who_is_this_guy/" rel="nofollow">apparently knocking off</a> anywhere from 4%-12% from his rating)?    <a href="http://www.acuratings.org/2006all.htm#AZ" rel="nofollow">In 2006</a>, yes it was 65%.  Putting him in <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html" rel="nofollow">47th place</a> among Senators, for that year.  <a href="http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/83e46c29-567d-483f-85e1-90769c76e061" rel="nofollow">But</a> for his quarter century service in the Senate, how can people claim he has not been conservative?  Maybe not the kind of conservative we wish him to be, but a conservative, nonetheless.</p>
<p>Trent Lott&#8217;s got one of the most conservative voting records for 3 decades, at 92.4%.  He has vigorously come out in defense of McCain.  Is he wrong in emphatically defending McCain&#8217;s conservative credentials, even as he has been in disagreement on issues with the Arizona Senator, through the years?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hillary&#8217;s ACU ranking is 9%.  It&#8217;s ridiculous emotional hyperbole to say &#8220;there&#8217;s no difference between her and McCain&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>did not come here to fight, just express myself, i apologize for any i’ve offended.</p></blockquote>
<p>No offense, taken or given.  Just expressing ourselves, as well.</p>
<blockquote><p>if we able to survive four years of the peanut head we can survive anything</p></blockquote>
<p>I seriously do not understand this sort of thinking.  We are still suffering from Carter&#8217;s mistakes (one half of the Islamic militancy we face today, I believe we can trace back to the failures of the Carter Administration to back the Shah from collapse at the hands of the Khomeinites).</p>
<p>It is also wishful thinking to believe that subjecting the country to a Hillary or Obama presidency will make Americans come around to be rescued by the 2nd coming of Reagan (where is he?).  If 3-5 SCOTUS appointments happen within the next 1-2 terms&#8230;.are you willing to allow the Justices to be appointed by a Democratic president or a wishy-washy Republican one (who has been strong on supporting conservative judges)?</p>
<p>It makes no sense to believe that the answer to moving the country further to the right, is by allowing in more liberal democrats to hold office seats.  Just to teach the Republican Party a lesson and to &#8220;prove&#8221; to the country how bad Democrats are.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;previously Curt offered nothing other than a personal opinion on what is to transpire should either of the democrats attain potus status&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you&#039;ve offered what?  Facts?  Not even close.  All you have offered is your own personal opinion about McCain, and that you care little about the what Obama and Hillary would do to this country.  Purists like yourself will do nothing for this party nor this country other then ensure its brought down to its knees and torn apart.  As Word stated, Reagan wouldn&#039;t of been good enough for you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>previously Curt offered nothing other than a personal opinion on what is to transpire should either of the democrats attain potus status</p></blockquote>
<p>And you&#8217;ve offered what?  Facts?  Not even close.  All you have offered is your own personal opinion about McCain, and that you care little about the what Obama and Hillary would do to this country.  Purists like yourself will do nothing for this party nor this country other then ensure its brought down to its knees and torn apart.  As Word stated, Reagan wouldn&#8217;t of been good enough for you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: row</title>
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		<dc:creator>row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>respectfully ChrisG if we able to survive four years of the peanut head we can survive anything including the two idiots (or three depending on how you look at things) that are currently available. previously Curt offered nothing other than a personal opinion on what is to transpire should either of the democrats attain potus status...and then goes on to dismiss out of hand a fellow conservatives viewpoint (just like mclame).

with regards to Wordsmiths response...i hardly know where to begin, kemp is a poster child for neocons, this idiot attempts to compare mccain with chruchill, kemp has gone the way of most republicans...left. with regards to who supports mccain, what&#039;s your point? it doesn&#039;t make mcain any more conservative...the loser&#039;s most recent ACU rating was 65...on par with hildebeast!!! his lifetime rating is NOT 85 but 77.5 and only 73 since Bush has been in office. notice movement in any particular direction here?

let me give you a brief bit of background, like Curt i&#039;m a bay area native (1950) and grew up in hayward and oakland. born a conservative i&#039;ve argued and fought (literally) every left wing social misfit group that ever set foot in the bay area...from the drug infested students for a democratic society, the child molesting weatherman underground, to the racist black panther party, from berkely to oakland to san francisco. i enlisted in 67, seperated in 75 and reenlisted in 89 (i consider military conflict a form of social work) i currently work with homeless veterans at the menlo park va. i am heart broken with what has become of what was my party, and just like Lincoln sometimes we need to seperate ourselves from what is a cancer and start over.

did not come here to fight, just express myself, i apologize for any i&#039;ve offended ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>respectfully ChrisG if we able to survive four years of the peanut head we can survive anything including the two idiots (or three depending on how you look at things) that are currently available. previously Curt offered nothing other than a personal opinion on what is to transpire should either of the democrats attain potus status&#8230;and then goes on to dismiss out of hand a fellow conservatives viewpoint (just like mclame).</p>
<p>with regards to Wordsmiths response&#8230;i hardly know where to begin, kemp is a poster child for neocons, this idiot attempts to compare mccain with chruchill, kemp has gone the way of most republicans&#8230;left. with regards to who supports mccain, what&#8217;s your point? it doesn&#8217;t make mcain any more conservative&#8230;the loser&#8217;s most recent ACU rating was 65&#8230;on par with hildebeast!!! his lifetime rating is NOT 85 but 77.5 and only 73 since Bush has been in office. notice movement in any particular direction here?</p>
<p>let me give you a brief bit of background, like Curt i&#8217;m a bay area native (1950) and grew up in hayward and oakland. born a conservative i&#8217;ve argued and fought (literally) every left wing social misfit group that ever set foot in the bay area&#8230;from the drug infested students for a democratic society, the child molesting weatherman underground, to the racist black panther party, from berkely to oakland to san francisco. i enlisted in 67, seperated in 75 and reenlisted in 89 (i consider military conflict a form of social work) i currently work with homeless veterans at the menlo park va. i am heart broken with what has become of what was my party, and just like Lincoln sometimes we need to seperate ourselves from what is a cancer and start over.</p>
<p>did not come here to fight, just express myself, i apologize for any i&#8217;ve offended <img src='http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>row,

If party purists were to dictate, we&#039;d lose every election, every time.  You win elections by building coalitions.  And you can only push the country further to the right, if elections are won; not lost.

You certainly don&#039;t speak for Ronald Reagan, as much as you&#039;d like to ride on his coattails as a Reaganite.  Today, I seriously doubt Reagan would be Reagan enough for the likes of you.

&lt;blockquote&gt;mcidiot does not have support of the conservative base nor will he…get used to it, he will not succeed under my watch. i along with huge percentage of reaganites reject mcturd along with current rnc philoshy. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suppose that&#039;s why even before McCain was the clear-cut front runner, he already had support amongst &quot;smart&quot; voters, who also happen to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/poking-my-thumb-in-the-eye-of-conservatives-for-their-own-good/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;foot soldiers and generals in the Reagan revolution&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;How is it that at least 17 prominent, staunch conservative Senators have thrown their support to John McCain?  How is it, that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/8313996a-5d94-4fd6-8cd4-43a9947afd28.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over 100 Admirals and generals&lt;/a&gt; along with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/2c677fa5-dd17-49f8-bf30-e972eee012cd.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Norman Schwarzkopf&lt;/a&gt; have endorsed the Senator from the great state of Arizona?  They couldn&#039;t all be RINOs, could they?  How is it that &lt;a href=&quot;http://schotlinepress.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/reagan-alumni-endorse-john-mccain-for-president/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;100 individuals&lt;/a&gt; who served in the Reagan Administration have &lt;a href=&quot;http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/01/23/six_big_lies_about_john_mccain&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;endorsed John McCain&lt;/a&gt;?
&lt;blockquote&gt;Many leaders of the Reagan Revolution – Jack Kemp, Senator Phil Gramm, Senator Dan Coats, General Alexander Haig, George Shultz and many more – proudly back Senator McCain. The conservative Senators who know McCain best – John Kyl, Tom Coburn, Sam Brownback, Lindsey Graham, Trent Lott – support his presidential campaign after working with him in the Senate for years and seeing his commitment to Reaganism. During the six years he served in Congress under President Reagan, McCain supported the administration as one of its most effective “foot soldiers.” Unlike many of his critics, McCain echoes the Reagan approach – not the Buchanan approach – to free trade and immigration reform.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Primaries are for &quot;teaching lessons&quot; and supporting the candidate who best represents your politics; general elections are for supporting your party&#039;s nominee, and winning the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>row,</p>
<p>If party purists were to dictate, we&#8217;d lose every election, every time.  You win elections by building coalitions.  And you can only push the country further to the right, if elections are won; not lost.</p>
<p>You certainly don&#8217;t speak for Ronald Reagan, as much as you&#8217;d like to ride on his coattails as a Reaganite.  Today, I seriously doubt Reagan would be Reagan enough for the likes of you.</p>
<blockquote><p>mcidiot does not have support of the conservative base nor will he…get used to it, he will not succeed under my watch. i along with huge percentage of reaganites reject mcturd along with current rnc philoshy. </p></blockquote>
<p>I suppose that&#8217;s why even before McCain was the clear-cut front runner, he already had support amongst &#8220;smart&#8221; voters, who also happen to be <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/poking-my-thumb-in-the-eye-of-conservatives-for-their-own-good/" rel="nofollow">foot soldiers and generals in the Reagan revolution</a>:<br />
<blockquote>How is it that at least 17 prominent, staunch conservative Senators have thrown their support to John McCain?  How is it, that <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/8313996a-5d94-4fd6-8cd4-43a9947afd28.htm" rel="nofollow">over 100 Admirals and generals</a> along with <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/2c677fa5-dd17-49f8-bf30-e972eee012cd.htm" rel="nofollow">Norman Schwarzkopf</a> have endorsed the Senator from the great state of Arizona?  They couldn&#8217;t all be RINOs, could they?  How is it that <a href="http://schotlinepress.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/reagan-alumni-endorse-john-mccain-for-president/" rel="nofollow">100 individuals</a> who served in the Reagan Administration have <a href="http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/01/23/six_big_lies_about_john_mccain" rel="nofollow">endorsed John McCain</a>?</p>
<blockquote><p>Many leaders of the Reagan Revolution – Jack Kemp, Senator Phil Gramm, Senator Dan Coats, General Alexander Haig, George Shultz and many more – proudly back Senator McCain. The conservative Senators who know McCain best – John Kyl, Tom Coburn, Sam Brownback, Lindsey Graham, Trent Lott – support his presidential campaign after working with him in the Senate for years and seeing his commitment to Reaganism. During the six years he served in Congress under President Reagan, McCain supported the administration as one of its most effective “foot soldiers.” Unlike many of his critics, McCain echoes the Reagan approach – not the Buchanan approach – to free trade and immigration reform.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Primaries are for &#8220;teaching lessons&#8221; and supporting the candidate who best represents your politics; general elections are for supporting your party&#8217;s nominee, and winning the election.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Row,

I do not know how long you have read this website, but many here do not like McCain and did not vote for him.  Curt supported Fed Thompson as did I.

The sad part is, neither America nor the world can not survive 4-8 years of Clinton or Obama wrongness on social issues and defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Row,</p>
<p>I do not know how long you have read this website, but many here do not like McCain and did not vote for him.  Curt supported Fed Thompson as did I.</p>
<p>The sad part is, neither America nor the world can not survive 4-8 years of Clinton or Obama wrongness on social issues and defense.</p>
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		<title>By: row</title>
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		<dc:creator>row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt wrote:

&quot;Like I said, just sad…and quite pathetic.&quot;

lol...pretty sure mcshamnensty said something almost exactly the same with regards to discounting conservatives thoughts...</description>
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<p>&#8220;Like I said, just sad…and quite pathetic.&#8221;</p>
<p>lol&#8230;pretty sure mcshamnensty said something almost exactly the same with regards to discounting conservatives thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad, pathetic, and childish....nice</description>
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		<title>By: row</title>
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		<dc:creator>row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s called a mirror</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s called a mirror</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, just sad...and quite pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, just sad&#8230;and quite pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: row</title>
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		<dc:creator>row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt writes:

Good luck with a liberal majority on the Supreme Court, it will take decades for that to work out and maybe, just maybe, your great grandkids will live in the country you want it to be. In the meantime lets screw your kids and your grandkids over…..

Just sad that anyone would think like that.&quot;

even sadder that you and others like you condone bad behavior (rino&#039;s, neocon&#039;s, mcshame)....thanks to you and like minded folks it&#039;s why we find ouselves in the fix we are today.

over the last 7 years i&#039;ve found myself being serially abused by the party I supported for decades...it&#039;s now time for a divorce, if the growing pains are difficult...thank yourself for them. 

mcidiot does not have support of the conservative base nor will he...get used to it, he will not succeed under my watch. i along with huge percentage of reaganites reject mcturd along with current rnc philoshy. we further reject those on the right who support this behavior along with the type of weak azz arguments presented here. 

for many so called conservatives living their lives with principals seems to be a thing of the past (moral relativism)...if you&#039;re not part of the solution...you&#039;re part of the problem bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt writes:</p>
<p>Good luck with a liberal majority on the Supreme Court, it will take decades for that to work out and maybe, just maybe, your great grandkids will live in the country you want it to be. In the meantime lets screw your kids and your grandkids over…..</p>
<p>Just sad that anyone would think like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>even sadder that you and others like you condone bad behavior (rino&#8217;s, neocon&#8217;s, mcshame)&#8230;.thanks to you and like minded folks it&#8217;s why we find ouselves in the fix we are today.</p>
<p>over the last 7 years i&#8217;ve found myself being serially abused by the party I supported for decades&#8230;it&#8217;s now time for a divorce, if the growing pains are difficult&#8230;thank yourself for them. </p>
<p>mcidiot does not have support of the conservative base nor will he&#8230;get used to it, he will not succeed under my watch. i along with huge percentage of reaganites reject mcturd along with current rnc philoshy. we further reject those on the right who support this behavior along with the type of weak azz arguments presented here. </p>
<p>for many so called conservatives living their lives with principals seems to be a thing of the past (moral relativism)&#8230;if you&#8217;re not part of the solution&#8230;you&#8217;re part of the problem bro.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;i will write in a conservative candidate and watch as osamahussienobama runs the country into the ground, and i will be here to pick up the pieces&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good luck with a liberal majority on the Supreme Court, it will take decades for that to work out and maybe, just maybe, your great grandkids will live in the country you want it to be.  In the meantime lets screw your kids and your grandkids over.....

Just sad that anyone would think like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i will write in a conservative candidate and watch as osamahussienobama runs the country into the ground, and i will be here to pick up the pieces</p></blockquote>
<p>Good luck with a liberal majority on the Supreme Court, it will take decades for that to work out and maybe, just maybe, your great grandkids will live in the country you want it to be.  In the meantime lets screw your kids and your grandkids over&#8230;..</p>
<p>Just sad that anyone would think like that.</p>
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