Comments on: US Military Commanders Bemoan Lack of Concern About Terror Threat http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:48:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Operation R.A.M.B.O. - 27 FEB 08 « AmeriCAN-DO Attitude http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20682 Operation R.A.M.B.O. - 27 FEB 08 « AmeriCAN-DO Attitude Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:32:07 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20682 [...] at Flopping Aces: US Military Commanders Bemoan Lack of Concern About Terror Threat “These retired and still active senior officer’s views are pretty much mine also. I [...] [...] at Flopping Aces: US Military Commanders Bemoan Lack of Concern About Terror Threat “These retired and still active senior officer’s views are pretty much mine also. I [...]

]]> By: Bill C http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20232 Bill C Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:53:23 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20232 Yes Buckehe, but they don't cover that now. And I would bet that even if they did, the dynamics have changed such that there are considerations one must include that were not present just 10 or 15 years ago. Yes Buckehe, but they don’t cover that now. And I would bet that even if they did, the dynamics have changed such that there are considerations one must include that were not present just 10 or 15 years ago.

]]> By: Buckehe http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20141 Buckehe Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:20:25 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20141 Bill: It has been a very long time ago, but how to determine fact, fiction and truth was taught as part of a college course I took in Sociology. Bill: It has been a very long time ago, but how to determine fact, fiction and truth was taught as part of a college course I took in Sociology.

]]> By: Bill C http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20016 Bill C Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:25:39 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-20016 "it seems very difficult to determine what incoming information can be accepted at face value, and what has to be gone over with a fine tooth comb to find a grain of truth." As the Bard said, "Ah, but there is the rub" for it is truly harder to know the truth from the favored lie. It was once a simple matter of knowing "who" to believe, so that then you would know "what" to believe. But Cronkite was a great example of the trampling of that trust. ?Now absent any singular voice of integrity and honesty we have literally hundreds and thousands of voices clamoring over each other. There are of course the dinosaurs of the Main Stream Media who still preen and pretend that from their towers they have some higher perspective and achieve a longer view of the larger picture, but that is more often than not proved to be a dimmer and more distant view of the facts on the ground. If I were a college professor, and had not become to deluded, I would start a course of study on how to research and determine fact from opinion, truth from fiction, in the modern information age. The course would be part economics, part human social science, part mythology, and part game theory. And a hell of a lot of fun. “it seems very difficult to determine what incoming information can be accepted at face value, and what has to be gone over with a fine tooth comb to find a grain of truth.”

As the Bard said, “Ah, but there is the rub” for it is truly harder to know the truth from the favored lie. It was once a simple matter of knowing “who” to believe, so that then you would know “what” to believe. But Cronkite was a great example of the trampling of that trust. ?Now absent any singular voice of integrity and honesty we have literally hundreds and thousands of voices clamoring over each other. There are of course the dinosaurs of the Main Stream Media who still preen and pretend that from their towers they have some higher perspective and achieve a longer view of the larger picture, but that is more often than not proved to be a dimmer and more distant view of the facts on the ground.

If I were a college professor, and had not become to deluded, I would start a course of study on how to research and determine fact from opinion, truth from fiction, in the modern information age. The course would be part economics, part human social science, part mythology, and part game theory. And a hell of a lot of fun.

]]> By: pagar http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-19995 pagar Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:17:25 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-19995 "information that supports their already held beliefs. It is a minority percentage of the minority percentage that is open and engaged and malable in their awarness and opinion of national and world events." Excellent comments, however I would like to add that it seems very difficult to determine what incoming information can be accepted at face value, and what has to be gone over with a fine tooth comb to find a grain of truth. I believe a classic example is the report from Walter Cronkite that the Tet offensive in Vietnam was a great victory for the Viet Cong. Not a single fact grain of truth in the entire story, yet millions of Americans believed it. Many of us in the military, who were there at the time or who went back there later, told anyone who would listen that it was not true. We were ignored while the lie was repeated over and over. The deaths of thousand of US soldiers, in vain: because lies from the American left were promoted as somehow being the truth. “information that supports their already held beliefs. It is a minority percentage of the minority percentage that is open and engaged and malable in their awarness and opinion of national and world events.”
Excellent comments, however I would like to add that it seems very difficult to determine what incoming information can be accepted at face value, and what has to be gone over with a fine tooth comb to find a grain of truth. I believe a classic example is the report from Walter Cronkite that the Tet offensive in Vietnam was a great victory for the Viet Cong. Not a single fact grain of truth in the entire story, yet millions of Americans believed it. Many of us in the military, who were there at the time or who went back there later, told anyone who would listen that it was not true. We were ignored while the lie was repeated over and over. The deaths of thousand of US soldiers, in vain: because lies from the American left were promoted as somehow being the truth.

]]> By: Bill C http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-19973 Bill C Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:54:15 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/us-military-commanders-bemoan-lack-of-concern-about-terror-threat/#comment-19973 Unfortunatly +70% of the people in the Us only know what is forced on them about national or world events. If the facts aren't force fed them, then they will ignore it or percieve those trying to inform them as pests. If the Mass Media of main stream news and the intertainment inductry doesn't sactify an issue as worthy of concern, then it isn't going to get any attention from that +70%. Of the 30% that is informed the majority of it appears to me to be actively seeking information that supports their already held beliefs. It is a minority percentage of the minority percentage that is open and engaged and malable in their awarness and opinion of national and world events. At least, until the next big blow comes. Then everyone will be looking for answers as to how it happened and who was asleep at the controls. But the answer is clear, America is asleep at the controls, ignoring the cries of those placed on watch and who are warning anyone who will lsten. Unfortunatly +70% of the people in the Us only know what is forced on them about national or world events. If the facts aren’t force fed them, then they will ignore it or percieve those trying to inform them as pests. If the Mass Media of main stream news and the intertainment inductry doesn’t sactify an issue as worthy of concern, then it isn’t going to get any attention from that +70%.
Of the 30% that is informed the majority of it appears to me to be actively seeking information that supports their already held beliefs. It is a minority percentage of the minority percentage that is open and engaged and malable in their awarness and opinion of national and world events.
At least, until the next big blow comes. Then everyone will be looking for answers as to how it happened and who was asleep at the controls. But the answer is clear, America is asleep at the controls, ignoring the cries of those placed on watch and who are warning anyone who will lsten.

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