What’s to answer.

Here are the questions again (I won’t even make you go looking for them).

See if you can answer them directly without your typical gyrations, permutations, equivocations, and random applications of moral equivalency.

1) If it were your wife, or your son or your daughter whose life would be saved by this “torture” treatment would you still be against it?

2) Our guys (you know, the good guys) captured Bin Laden’s security coordinator earlier this month.

Would you say that a little tough questioning might be in order for this guy?

Or should we just ply him with falafel and Diet Coke and hope that he fills us in on what we need to know out of the goodness of his heart?

3) Show me where anyone “here” has screamed “torture everyone”.

4) can you cite for us any comment where the poster is in favor of “torturing children” because I’m really still curious about that.

What say you?

Do you have the stones to answer the questions or will you show once again that you are speaking from your rectum?

At what point does one ask if all the loud wailing from the Democratic Party leaders is just wailing, and not substantive? If it’s just spin to fuel their base, and not substance? Fact is, either their LOUD liars, or their actually more incompetent than the Bush Administration for they continue to authorize, allow, fund, and continue everything that they get their base all riled up about.

Torture is wrong. We, however, DO NOT TORTURE. Islamofascists who cut off heads/hands/feet, apply hot electric irons to people, bake children and return them to their families, electrify people, etc torture. What we, the military, do is in line with US regulations and laws as stated by the US Congress. You cannot see the difference in your hate and party-fed lies. Democrats in congress, however, can and have.

“Waterboarding”, is by congressional authorization, notification, and oversite, not torture. Leftists in congress knew about these, very seldom used, and non life threatening methods and even observed them in action. They could have outlawed it right there, but did not, nor did they do anything to outlaw it later (or even now), as pointed out on this website and others. “Waterboarding”, which is the current end to US questioning/interrogation abilities for unlawful combatants, which the Law of Land Warfare (FM 27-10) states have NO protections accorded to POWs, was proven to be used in very few cases and ONLY after all other courses were tried AND it was deemed essential to gain the information. In fact, it has not been needed for most terrorists as other methods have worked. This too has been documented and overseen by congress. So by following laws, we are somehow evil? Wait, you already answered that above. No matter what “conservatives” do, they are always wrong, always out to get people, and hate everything (unless they fully agree with leftists).

You, on the other hand, love to see people tortured, you (as do all Conservatives) celebrate torture.

You sit here and directly insult me with moronic lies like “However you, like every single other Conservative, everywhere, are completely incapable of making any such statement” (and that is just one example) and then continue your stupidity in making the above comment?!? And after making such asinine statements, you cry “I’m being attacked” when we respond to your attacks!!! Refuting your lies is not attacking, but how dare we question you. No wonder leftists have trouble reacting to islamofascism and believe the Crusades were a war of aggression by Europe. You cannot tell attack from defense!

The only “disgrace”, to use your word, here Steve is you, your idiotic “I’m being persecuted as I attack what I am told by my masters are ‘conservatives’” comments, and your hate as proven YET AGAIN.

You’ve called me a conservative in the past. Please show me how you think I love to see people suffer, or fire up that other braincell of yours and dig deep for an apology that might come close to sounding genuine.

What’s to “answer”? I belive that government sanctioned torture of prisoners debasses our country and what it stands for. It is also a recruiting tool for al Qaeda that likely recruits ten converts for every one we torture. (and I said as much on the thread).

You, like all Conservatives, love to see people tortured. You justify it with references to fictional scenarios, such as “24″ that do not happen in real life (despite evidence-less references you post of pictures of buildings that are “claimed” to have been saved.)

Conservatives love to see people suffer, whether through poverty or torture, they cheer on death and pain, as we see on a daily basis on this site. The concept of a “Compassionate Conservative” was indeed just a campaign ploy of George W. Bush: something that Conservatives treat as a joke now.

I belive that torture is a disgrace, no matter how many fictional scenarios you try to bring up. You, on the other hand, love to see people tortured, you (as do all Conservatives) celebrate torture. That makes you no different from the Saudi Ruling Family, or the tyrants in Bejing. You just justify it with differnt words.

Go ahead, prove me wrong. Post a line saying that “torture is wrong”. You can’t. And what does that make you? A “good Conservative” that is what it makes you.

Man, that’s an awfully broad brush. How do you possibly manage to wield it without hitting the walls of Mommy’s basement?

By the way Stevie, have you answered those difficult questions yet from the waterboarding thread?

Of course not.

And all the condescension and patronizing comments, childish name-calling, and digressions cannot alter the proven behavior on display in this thread.

This followed your baseless attacks, yet again, on conservatives. I DID say that some Dems break with their party and do the correct thing for America at times. I also pointed out that senior Dems were angry at the break from the Party, which contradicted your claims. For “condescension and patronizing comments”, look at your own posts.

Thanks again for proving my point and obervations on your predicted responses and disproving your own persecution issues and blanket partisan attacks.

A Conservative “even handed” approach would have been, “While I disagree with the Democrats on other items, they did do the right thing this time…”. However you, like every single other Conservative, everywhere, are completely incapable of making any such statement. I attribute it to your 100% party allegiance. You might attribute it to your undying hatred of anyone who is not politically alligned with “The Party”. Either way, you are displaying Conservatives total partisian allegiance to the Republican Party: Now and forever.

And all the condescension and patronizing comments, childish name-calling, and digressions cannot alter the proven behavior on display in this thread.

Sorry if this is something you do not like to hear. I know that Conservatives cannot stand even the slightest criticism, believing themselves to be perfect. But those are the facts on display.

Yes, portions of the Democratics in power do what is correct when the cameras are off them sometimes. However, I fully expect them to keep screaming to their base and the media that the “Bush Police State” is coming and other assorted absurdities. Also note that “Democratic leaders reacted angrily to the Senate vote” disputes your comment, as does Senator Dodd’s remarks about supposed losses in liberty.

Your partisan attacks against conservatives saying it is some “Republican party Rules” BS, is as usual, a bait for your new persecution complex. Of course, when anyone responds to your baseless attacks, your cry “help help, I’m being repressed”.

Typical, and wrong as usual.

Aren’t you Conservatives even willing to give the Democrats credit when they do provide something President Bush wants?

Or are you too bound up in your partisian hatred to ever give Democrats credit for anything positive, ever (Republican party Rules generally do forbid Conservatives from saying anything that is not in line with partisian politics,I know, but I thought you might make this one exception).

Responses to this post will be, of course, personally abusive of me and not one single Conservative will admit that I had a point about your partisian behavior

We do not need any more terrorist attacks or Americans killing each other. Please leave those comments to the Code Pinkers/ANSWER/WWP/ACORN morons at DU and Kos.