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		<title>By: onein6billion</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-171464</link>
		<dc:creator>onein6billion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s going to open big, get bigger, and then it’s going to stir up more controversy than ever before&quot;

Your prediction has been falsified.

But there are now 1300+ comments on Roger Ebert&#039;s blog after his review trashed this &quot;mockumentary&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s going to open big, get bigger, and then it’s going to stir up more controversy than ever before&#8221;</p>
<p>Your prediction has been falsified.</p>
<p>But there are now 1300+ comments on Roger Ebert&#8217;s blog after his review trashed this &#8220;mockumentary&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: factician</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-40612</link>
		<dc:creator>factician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While you&#039;re teaching that quote in biology, we could teach this one in physics:  

&quot;It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.&quot;  --Albert Einstein

Of course, we could just leave god out of science class...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you&#8217;re teaching that quote in biology, we could teach this one in physics:  </p>
<p>&#8220;It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.&#8221;  &#8211;Albert Einstein</p>
<p>Of course, we could just leave god out of science class&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: onein6billion</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-37720</link>
		<dc:creator>onein6billion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you are going to teach Darwin’s theory of evolution in public schools, you should teach what Darwin actually wrote about it.&quot;

Riiiiight.  Darwin&#039;s personal opinion about religion in the 1850s is soooo relevant to the proper teaching of the Modern Theory of Evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you are going to teach Darwin’s theory of evolution in public schools, you should teach what Darwin actually wrote about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Riiiiight.  Darwin&#8217;s personal opinion about religion in the 1850s is soooo relevant to the proper teaching of the Modern Theory of Evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: michael class</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-35888</link>
		<dc:creator>michael class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, would a public school teacher in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, be allowed to say the following:

&quot;It is interesting to contemplate ... [all the many forms of life on earth] ... so different from each other, have all been produced by laws acting around us. ... There is grandeur in this view of life, HAVING BEEN ORIGINALLY BREATHED BY THE CREATOR INTO A FEW FORMS OR INTO ONE; and that from so simple a beginning, endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved.&quot;

Just imagine a public school teacher who says those words: that God creates life and places it on the earth in a few forms, and then that life evolves according to the physical and natural laws that God put into place in the universe.

Would that be allowed?

Actually, it should be REQUIRED FOR THE TEACHER TO SAY THAT.

Why? Because the quote is from: On the Origin of the Species, Chapter XV, Recapitulation and Conclusion, By Charles Darwin.

If you are going to teach Darwin&#039;s theory of evolution in public schools, you should teach what Darwin actually wrote about it.


Michael S. Class
Author

Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame: The History Book with a Message for Today&#039;s Young Americans

Read the book. Remember the truth. Share it with your children.

Web Site: www.MagicPictureFrame.com

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, would a public school teacher in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, be allowed to say the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is interesting to contemplate &#8230; [all the many forms of life on earth] &#8230; so different from each other, have all been produced by laws acting around us. &#8230; There is grandeur in this view of life, HAVING BEEN ORIGINALLY BREATHED BY THE CREATOR INTO A FEW FORMS OR INTO ONE; and that from so simple a beginning, endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just imagine a public school teacher who says those words: that God creates life and places it on the earth in a few forms, and then that life evolves according to the physical and natural laws that God put into place in the universe.</p>
<p>Would that be allowed?</p>
<p>Actually, it should be REQUIRED FOR THE TEACHER TO SAY THAT.</p>
<p>Why? Because the quote is from: On the Origin of the Species, Chapter XV, Recapitulation and Conclusion, By Charles Darwin.</p>
<p>If you are going to teach Darwin&#8217;s theory of evolution in public schools, you should teach what Darwin actually wrote about it.</p>
<p>Michael S. Class<br />
Author</p>
<p>Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame: The History Book with a Message for Today&#8217;s Young Americans</p>
<p>Read the book. Remember the truth. Share it with your children.</p>
<p>Web Site: <a href="http://www.MagicPictureFrame.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MagicPictureFrame.com</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-27689</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the movie in an advance screening and I thought the movie was hysterically funny, sad, powerful -- the gamut of emotions ran through me. It will make people amused, angry, sad, hopeful, fearful.

See my review for more details:

http://forerunner.com/blog

Mark my words. It&#039;s going to open big, get bigger, and then it&#039;s going to stir up more controversy than ever before -- and then it&#039;s going to get bigger and have a longer run due to the controversy. All during this, the media will be saying it is tanking.

Of course. They have to. There is no other alternative except to admit the impending failure of the liberal worldview.

EXPELLED is entertaining. It&#039;s hilarious, but it&#039;s not meant to amuse. 

The Greek word MUSE means to think or ponder something. A-MUSE-ment is the lack of thoughtful consideration.

In fact, most of the best humor is unintentional and deeply ironic.

This is an experience movie. People flocked to see The Passion of the Christ -- one of the least entertaining movies you will ever want to see. A low budget film that made a billion.

EXPELLED is in the same vein. It begins in an upbeat light manner and slwoly descends into serious blackness. You can dismiss it, but it&#039;s another one of these low-budget masterpieces whose producers have chosen to spend their few millions on advertising. And it&#039;s going to get a big boost from word-of-mouth and grassroots efforts (like your blog).

I have to laugh when I read critics saying that Michael Moore&#039;s style of jump-edited out-of-context mockumentary is better than EXPELLED. 

It is a masterpiece compared to anything More has done. I know he is the patron saint of the radical left, but take out his political views and an ape with a camera could put together a better production. (No pun intended.)

I am a Christian who can&#039;t stand some Christian movies becasue they have been historically schlocky, but this wasn&#039;t a &quot;Christian&quot; movie (Stein is a Jew) and it had high production quality.

With the availability of high tech media production at a lower cost than ever before, we are seeing conservatives and Christians in particular turn the corner with high grossing efforts that are at once entertaining, informative, uplifting and provocative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the movie in an advance screening and I thought the movie was hysterically funny, sad, powerful &#8212; the gamut of emotions ran through me. It will make people amused, angry, sad, hopeful, fearful.</p>
<p>See my review for more details:</p>
<p><a href="http://forerunner.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://forerunner.com/blog</a></p>
<p>Mark my words. It&#8217;s going to open big, get bigger, and then it&#8217;s going to stir up more controversy than ever before &#8212; and then it&#8217;s going to get bigger and have a longer run due to the controversy. All during this, the media will be saying it is tanking.</p>
<p>Of course. They have to. There is no other alternative except to admit the impending failure of the liberal worldview.</p>
<p>EXPELLED is entertaining. It&#8217;s hilarious, but it&#8217;s not meant to amuse. </p>
<p>The Greek word MUSE means to think or ponder something. A-MUSE-ment is the lack of thoughtful consideration.</p>
<p>In fact, most of the best humor is unintentional and deeply ironic.</p>
<p>This is an experience movie. People flocked to see The Passion of the Christ &#8212; one of the least entertaining movies you will ever want to see. A low budget film that made a billion.</p>
<p>EXPELLED is in the same vein. It begins in an upbeat light manner and slwoly descends into serious blackness. You can dismiss it, but it&#8217;s another one of these low-budget masterpieces whose producers have chosen to spend their few millions on advertising. And it&#8217;s going to get a big boost from word-of-mouth and grassroots efforts (like your blog).</p>
<p>I have to laugh when I read critics saying that Michael Moore&#8217;s style of jump-edited out-of-context mockumentary is better than EXPELLED. </p>
<p>It is a masterpiece compared to anything More has done. I know he is the patron saint of the radical left, but take out his political views and an ape with a camera could put together a better production. (No pun intended.)</p>
<p>I am a Christian who can&#8217;t stand some Christian movies becasue they have been historically schlocky, but this wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;Christian&#8221; movie (Stein is a Jew) and it had high production quality.</p>
<p>With the availability of high tech media production at a lower cost than ever before, we are seeing conservatives and Christians in particular turn the corner with high grossing efforts that are at once entertaining, informative, uplifting and provocative.</p>
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		<title>By: onein6billion</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-19747</link>
		<dc:creator>onein6billion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But when the film makers have to hide the faces of scientists who dare discuss ID in a rational way you know that this freedom doesn’t exist.&quot;

The other possibility is that the film is deliberately dishonest.

The creationists have their books, web sites, and blogs.  They cannot be &quot;suppressed&quot;.  If they really had a scientific idea, it would be properly discussed.  But &quot;God did it sometime somewhere somehow somewhy&quot; is not science.  So what, exactly, is &quot;intelligent design&quot; and how does it make predictions that can be called scientific?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But when the film makers have to hide the faces of scientists who dare discuss ID in a rational way you know that this freedom doesn’t exist.&#8221;</p>
<p>The other possibility is that the film is deliberately dishonest.</p>
<p>The creationists have their books, web sites, and blogs.  They cannot be &#8220;suppressed&#8221;.  If they really had a scientific idea, it would be properly discussed.  But &#8220;God did it sometime somewhere somehow somewhy&#8221; is not science.  So what, exactly, is &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; and how does it make predictions that can be called scientific?</p>
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		<title>By: birds</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-15973</link>
		<dc:creator>birds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to sound like a broken record. Theories in science don&#039;t become facts. They are explanations. Referring to a science text book can clear up any problem you have with the vocabulary used in science contexts.

Fossils will always be fully formed animals. An animal would die if it were not fully formed, and would not be able to reproduce if it were dead. The fact that fossils of the past do not have any of today&#039;s creatures is more the focus of where people should be looking, but that isn&#039;t the only aspect that evolution claims. Again, reading a textbook and not comments to a blog would be a good start to critically evaluating the proponents of evolution AND whatever design theory you want to learn about.

 The beauty about &quot;believing&quot; in science is that you don&#039;t have to and you can still function within that environment. You can do the same tests as others, and you&#039;ll have the unbiased opinion that is needed going in to not look for an answer before you have a question. It&#039;s nice that you want to put faith somewhere, and that&#039;s your right. Just remember, that 2000 year old book has been changed and reworded by people. You can either argue that point and agree that man has had an influence over &quot;the Word&quot; or you can assume that a book has made it 2,000 years, and people are not allowed to challenge it from things they learn, since the conclusion is drawn prior to the evidence being presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to sound like a broken record. Theories in science don&#8217;t become facts. They are explanations. Referring to a science text book can clear up any problem you have with the vocabulary used in science contexts.</p>
<p>Fossils will always be fully formed animals. An animal would die if it were not fully formed, and would not be able to reproduce if it were dead. The fact that fossils of the past do not have any of today&#8217;s creatures is more the focus of where people should be looking, but that isn&#8217;t the only aspect that evolution claims. Again, reading a textbook and not comments to a blog would be a good start to critically evaluating the proponents of evolution AND whatever design theory you want to learn about.</p>
<p> The beauty about &#8220;believing&#8221; in science is that you don&#8217;t have to and you can still function within that environment. You can do the same tests as others, and you&#8217;ll have the unbiased opinion that is needed going in to not look for an answer before you have a question. It&#8217;s nice that you want to put faith somewhere, and that&#8217;s your right. Just remember, that 2000 year old book has been changed and reworded by people. You can either argue that point and agree that man has had an influence over &#8220;the Word&#8221; or you can assume that a book has made it 2,000 years, and people are not allowed to challenge it from things they learn, since the conclusion is drawn prior to the evidence being presented.</p>
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		<title>By: Fasternu426</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/expelled-the-new-ben-stein-movie/#comment-15768</link>
		<dc:creator>Fasternu426</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A theory becomes fact when it is proven. The theory of evolution is a theory. Science supposedly acts on fact. Proving theories to be fact or disproving them should be the goal of science. The fossil record is what scientists usually like to use to show evolution. Is it really evolution? Or does it just show similarities between species. Yet the fossil record only shows fully formed species. No one has ever found the fossil of a &quot;monkey-fish&quot; if you will.  Consider the genetic code as being letters in a sentence. If you had a sentence, then a random mutation occurred changing a word, would it make the sentence into a new sentence, or something incomprehensible? I&#039;ll put my faith in God instead of a 150 year old unproven theory. It takes just as much faith to believe in science as it does God. Remember, the best scientists in the world once believe that the world was flat and that the universe rotated around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A theory becomes fact when it is proven. The theory of evolution is a theory. Science supposedly acts on fact. Proving theories to be fact or disproving them should be the goal of science. The fossil record is what scientists usually like to use to show evolution. Is it really evolution? Or does it just show similarities between species. Yet the fossil record only shows fully formed species. No one has ever found the fossil of a &#8220;monkey-fish&#8221; if you will.  Consider the genetic code as being letters in a sentence. If you had a sentence, then a random mutation occurred changing a word, would it make the sentence into a new sentence, or something incomprehensible? I&#8217;ll put my faith in God instead of a 150 year old unproven theory. It takes just as much faith to believe in science as it does God. Remember, the best scientists in the world once believe that the world was flat and that the universe rotated around us.</p>
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