Comments on: Obama to Clinton: Show Us The Money http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:25:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Scott http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15779 Scott Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:02:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15779 Just the first page of the report. You'll also find that other Congressman's PACs have donated as well. Also, I don't know how much Soros paid for the "study" that claimed civilian casualties in Iraq are 2-10x higher than the actual count. Similar outside funding of media outlets by Soros are not immediately trackable. AUDACIOUS VERMONTERS FOR HOPE MID-ATLANTIC PROGRESSIVE LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE VOTE HOPE CEISLER JUBELIRER LLC PAC (A.K.A. C J PAC - FEDERAL) CHESAPEAKE ENERGY CORPORATION FED-PAC COMMUNITY BANKERS ASSOCIATION OF ILLINOIS FEDPAC CONTROLLER LAURA CHICK OFFICEHOLDER COMMITTEE COOPERATIVE OF AMERICAN PHYSICIANS - MUTUAL PROTECTION TRUST (CAP-MPT) FEDERAL PAC INTERNATIONAL LONGSHOREMEN'S ASSOCIATION AFL-CIO COMMITTEE ON POLITICAL EDUCATION ILA-COPE VIA KERREY FOR U S SENATE COMMITTEE LOCKE LORD BISSELL & LIDDELL LLP PAC MAYNARD COOPER AND GALE PC PAC MODERATES AGAINST CORRUPTION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE NAAA-ADC INC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE PLANNED PARENTHOOD ACTION FUND INC. PAC (PLANNED PARENTHOOD FEDERAL PAC) Just the first page of the report. You’ll also find that other Congressman’s PACs have donated as well. Also, I don’t know how much Soros paid for the “study” that claimed civilian casualties in Iraq are 2-10x higher than the actual count. Similar outside funding of media outlets by Soros are not immediately trackable.

AUDACIOUS VERMONTERS FOR HOPE
MID-ATLANTIC PROGRESSIVE LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE
VOTE HOPE
CEISLER JUBELIRER LLC PAC (A.K.A. C J PAC - FEDERAL)
CHESAPEAKE ENERGY CORPORATION FED-PAC
COMMUNITY BANKERS ASSOCIATION OF ILLINOIS FEDPAC
CONTROLLER LAURA CHICK OFFICEHOLDER COMMITTEE
COOPERATIVE OF AMERICAN PHYSICIANS - MUTUAL PROTECTION TRUST (CAP-MPT) FEDERAL PAC
INTERNATIONAL LONGSHOREMEN’S ASSOCIATION AFL-CIO COMMITTEE ON POLITICAL EDUCATION ILA-COPE
VIA KERREY FOR U S SENATE COMMITTEE
LOCKE LORD BISSELL & LIDDELL LLP PAC
MAYNARD COOPER AND GALE PC PAC
MODERATES AGAINST CORRUPTION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE
NAAA-ADC INC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE
PLANNED PARENTHOOD ACTION FUND INC. PAC (PLANNED PARENTHOOD FEDERAL PAC)

]]> By: bbartlog http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15778 bbartlog Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:49:19 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15778 If you were paying more attention you would realize that Obama's presidential campaign hasn't been taking PAC money. His past is still plenty dirty (he relied heavily on PACs and lobbyists in his previous campaigns and has carried lots of water for them), but you won't be able to score points on him on the basis of contributors to his current effort. Lots of individual contributors, small donors and all that... If you were paying more attention you would realize that Obama’s presidential campaign hasn’t been taking PAC money. His past is still plenty dirty (he relied heavily on PACs and lobbyists in his previous campaigns and has carried lots of water for them), but you won’t be able to score points on him on the basis of contributors to his current effort. Lots of individual contributors, small donors and all that…

]]> By: Scott http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15726 Scott Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:16:04 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15726 Buckeye, directly, he can only give $2300. Indirectly, he can give unlimited amounts, and by that I mean, he can give $2500 to Moveon, $2500 to Sugarbeet Growers of America, and any other PAC that gives to the Obama campaign. To find out where he gets his money, go to the Federal Election Commission website, and search on candidate contributions. It's easy. THEN print out the list, page backwards in your browser, and search on the individual groups that gave to his campaign. See how much Soros has given to each group, and repeat. Now, if a group (like the Sugarbeet Growers of America gets $2500 from Soros and gives $2500 to Obama, that doesn't mean that it was a 1:1 money launder. You'll have to do some math to figure out exactly what portion of that $2500 from the Sugarbeet Growers came from Soros. It might only be $5, but if you jot that down on the printout you did earlier, then add it up, you'll be able to see. Most people-myself included-just don't have the time or inclination. It's safe to say he's bought and paid for by Soros and groups that don't have America's sovereignty and/or representative govt at heart; often not even American ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are not in their interest (socialists, communists, anarchists, marxists, leninists, and fascists fall among this category). Point is, if you really wanna find out, you can. It just takes time and effort (and some math skills). Buckeye, directly, he can only give $2300. Indirectly, he can give unlimited amounts, and by that I mean, he can give $2500 to Moveon, $2500 to Sugarbeet Growers of America, and any other PAC that gives to the Obama campaign. To find out where he gets his money, go to the Federal Election Commission website, and search on candidate contributions. It’s easy. THEN print out the list, page backwards in your browser, and search on the individual groups that gave to his campaign. See how much Soros has given to each group, and repeat. Now, if a group (like the Sugarbeet Growers of America gets $2500 from Soros and gives $2500 to Obama, that doesn’t mean that it was a 1:1 money launder. You’ll have to do some math to figure out exactly what portion of that $2500 from the Sugarbeet Growers came from Soros. It might only be $5, but if you jot that down on the printout you did earlier, then add it up, you’ll be able to see. Most people-myself included-just don’t have the time or inclination. It’s safe to say he’s bought and paid for by Soros and groups that don’t have America’s sovereignty and/or representative govt at heart; often not even American ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are not in their interest (socialists, communists, anarchists, marxists, leninists, and fascists fall among this category).

Point is, if you really wanna find out, you can. It just takes time and effort (and some math skills).

]]> By: Buckeye http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15715 Buckeye Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:29:00 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15715 I'd like to know how much money George Soros has invested in Hussien O. I’d like to know how much money George Soros has invested in Hussien O.

]]> By: Scott http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15511 Scott Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:05:35 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15511 The bigger story (imo) is that Dems dare question Dems. Accountability and responsibility are not found the DNC platform. The bigger story (imo) is that Dems dare question Dems.

Accountability and responsibility are not found the DNC platform.

]]> By: bbartlog http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15508 bbartlog Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:56:14 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15508 I bet part of the money trail leads to Kazakhstan and Nazarbayev (or the uranium miners that are involved with him). Between that and the favors for big coal miners (locking up the Escalante Monument coal deposit), I wonder how many other natural resource companies might have paid them for favors? But I'm sure their corruption is diversified, no sense getting all your graft from just one sector. I bet part of the money trail leads to Kazakhstan and Nazarbayev (or the uranium miners that are involved with him). Between that and the favors for big coal miners (locking up the Escalante Monument coal deposit), I wonder how many other natural resource companies might have paid them for favors? But I’m sure their corruption is diversified, no sense getting all your graft from just one sector.

]]> By: zorro http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15498 zorro Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:31:00 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15498 As a white man, how would I feel about Obama being President? Thinking about Obama being a Senator is a start, and finding out Illinois is not his home, which is part of the same argument that Obama is not truly an African American in the traditional sense. When America finally discovers this and the way Mainstream Media has pulled a person with what one might conclude is a great show man with the talent to move a crowd, yet is a very confused or even arrogant and immature person, but can inspire, motivate, and sell positive thinking better than Norman Vincent Peale. When Obama started to get “Media Hyped” my senses told me that this was another Reagan media manufactured mover and shaker. I say that because my personal opinion of Reagan, being one who was hypnotized by Reagan’s charisma, voting for Reagan twice and now regretting it during that time reflects on what a stupid fool I was, totally duped by the media. As I reflect back on the politic and media in a time with Reagan and his fundamentals actually born the crazy political jammed up in cultural crisis America is in now. Which, for me was actually the conception to the realities of the Neo-Con era the evangelist, Karol Rove the architect and Bush and Company that are now flushed out to be America most disastrous turn of events in history. Likely not thought of that way among Republicans. Now, with mixed blood Obama pressing the minority button for change and blacks with many whites are embracing Obama. I decided to find more about him rather than through media spin biased with all the trimmings of the elitist contour for what Americans need to know rather than Whats really out there. So, I came across Obama’s book the “Audacity of Hope”. In small letters on the front lower right cover Obama says “Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream”. Hey this sounds like some pretty good stuff. Getting through the first ten pages blew my mind, and started to raise some questions on how could this man, Obama, say what is on his front cover and turn one hundred and eighty degrees to say he, Obama, offers no unifying theory of American government … in one of his passages, Obama, really floored me. Especially, that is Obama says, “That’s the topic of this book: how we might begin the process of changing our politics and our civic life. This isn’t to say that I know exactly how to do it. I don’t”. Sheesh, here, Obama and millions of the electorate are parading around with a guy who doesn’t know how to change but rants change you can believe in. That’s incredible. Obama also taught the Constitution for years but claims he offers no unifying theory for American government, here the Constitution being the most important experiment in the history of modern self government. Sheesh. America needs to take a closer look at this guy. As a white man, how would I feel about Obama being President? Thinking about Obama being a Senator is a start, and finding out Illinois is not his home, which is part of the same argument that Obama is not truly an African American in the traditional sense. When America finally discovers this and the way Mainstream Media has pulled a person with what one might conclude is a great show man with the talent to move a crowd, yet is a very confused or even arrogant and immature person, but can inspire, motivate, and sell positive thinking better than Norman Vincent Peale.

When Obama started to get “Media Hyped” my senses told me that this was another Reagan media manufactured mover and shaker. I say that because my personal opinion of Reagan, being one who was hypnotized by Reagan’s charisma, voting for Reagan twice and now regretting it during that time reflects on what a stupid fool I was, totally duped by the media. As I reflect back on the politic and media in a time with Reagan and his fundamentals actually born the crazy political jammed up in cultural crisis America is in now. Which, for me was actually the conception to the realities of the Neo-Con era the evangelist, Karol Rove the architect and Bush and Company that are now flushed out to be America most disastrous turn of events in history. Likely not thought of that way among Republicans.

Now, with mixed blood Obama pressing the minority button for change and blacks with many whites are embracing Obama. I decided to find more about him rather than through media spin biased with all the trimmings of the elitist contour for what Americans need to know rather than Whats really out there. So, I came across Obama’s book the “Audacity of Hope”. In small letters on the front lower right cover Obama says “Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream”. Hey this sounds like some pretty good stuff.

Getting through the first ten pages blew my mind, and started to raise some questions on how could this man, Obama, say what is on his front cover and turn one hundred and eighty degrees to say he, Obama, offers no unifying theory of American government … in one of his passages, Obama, really floored me. Especially, that is Obama says, “That’s the topic of this book: how we might begin the process of changing our politics and our civic life. This isn’t to say that I know exactly how to do it. I don’t”. Sheesh, here, Obama and millions of the electorate are parading around with a guy who doesn’t know how to change but rants change you can believe in. That’s incredible. Obama also taught the Constitution for years but claims he offers no unifying theory for American government, here the Constitution being the most important experiment in the history of modern self government. Sheesh. America needs to take a closer look at this guy.

]]> By: jainphx http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15495 jainphx Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:56:55 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/08/obama-to-clinton-show-us-the-money/#comment-15495 Now thats a low blow, no one whose a gentleman, asks a lady of the evening where she gets her money. Just goes to show how McCain Feingold gets money out of politics, funny how that works. Now thats a low blow, no one whose a gentleman, asks a lady of the evening where she gets her money. Just goes to show how McCain Feingold gets money out of politics, funny how that works.

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