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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Immigration Reform Based on Mexican Laws</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Immigration Reform Based on Mexican Laws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] researching a response within this topic I came accross articles on Mexico&#8217;s immigration laws. It struck me, and the writers from the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15145</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Your statements are valid and also shared by many conservatives.  The RNC got more than an earful on this issue with illegal immigration last year.  Enforce the laws and build a fence became almost a mantra.

As for immigration laws, if we want to imitate others, we could incorporate Mexico&#039;s immigration and guest laws into our.  Below is just one story from a Yahoo search on &quot;Mexican immigration law&quot;

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/lillpop022707.htm

What is Mexico&#039;s law?
&lt;blockquote&gt;Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
# in the country legally;
# have the means to sustain themselves economically;
# not destined to be burdens on society;
# of economic and social benefit to society;
# of good character and have no criminal records; and
# contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

The law also ensures that:
# immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
# foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
# foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country&#039;s internal politics;
# foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
# foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
# those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

Under the constitution, the Ley General de Poblacion, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country&#039;s immigration policy.

It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let&#039;s look at Mexico&#039;s main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
# Foreigners are admitted into Mexico &quot;according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.&quot; (Article 32)
# Immigration officials must &quot;ensure&quot; that &quot;immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance&quot; and for their dependents. (Article 34)
# Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets &quot;the equilibrium of the national demographics,&quot; when foreigners are deemed detrimental to &quot;economic or national interests,&quot; when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when &quot;they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.&quot; (Article 37)
# The Secretary of Governance may &quot;suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.&quot; (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
# Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
# A National Population Registry keeps track of &quot;every single individual who comprises the population of the country,&quot; and verifies each individual&#039;s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
# A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
# Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
# Foreigners who sign government documents &quot;with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses&quot; are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
# Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
# Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
# Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
# &quot;A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.&quot; (Article 123)
# Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
# Foreigners who &quot;attempt against national sovereignty or security&quot; will be deported. (Article 126)

Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
# A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
# Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think I will have to do a post solely dedicated to this as adopting a Mexican style immigration law would be interesting as the author I quotes states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Your statements are valid and also shared by many conservatives.  The RNC got more than an earful on this issue with illegal immigration last year.  Enforce the laws and build a fence became almost a mantra.</p>
<p>As for immigration laws, if we want to imitate others, we could incorporate Mexico&#8217;s immigration and guest laws into our.  Below is just one story from a Yahoo search on &#8220;Mexican immigration law&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/lillpop022707.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/lillpop022707.htm</a></p>
<p>What is Mexico&#8217;s law?</p>
<blockquote><p>Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:<br />
# in the country legally;<br />
# have the means to sustain themselves economically;<br />
# not destined to be burdens on society;<br />
# of economic and social benefit to society;<br />
# of good character and have no criminal records; and<br />
# contributors to the general well-being of the nation.</p>
<p>The law also ensures that:<br />
# immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;<br />
# foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;<br />
# foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country&#8217;s internal politics;<br />
# foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;<br />
# foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;<br />
# those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.</p>
<p>Under the constitution, the Ley General de Poblacion, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country&#8217;s immigration policy.</p>
<p>It is an interesting law &#8212; and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.</p>
<p>If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.</p>
<p>We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let&#8217;s look at Mexico&#8217;s main immigration law.</p>
<p>Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:<br />
# Foreigners are admitted into Mexico &#8220;according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.&#8221; (Article 32)<br />
# Immigration officials must &#8220;ensure&#8221; that &#8220;immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance&#8221; and for their dependents. (Article 34)<br />
# Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets &#8220;the equilibrium of the national demographics,&#8221; when foreigners are deemed detrimental to &#8220;economic or national interests,&#8221; when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when &#8220;they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.&#8221; (Article 37)<br />
# The Secretary of Governance may &#8220;suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.&#8221; (Article 38)</p>
<p>Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:<br />
# Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)<br />
# A National Population Registry keeps track of &#8220;every single individual who comprises the population of the country,&#8221; and verifies each individual&#8217;s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)<br />
# A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).</p>
<p>Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:<br />
# Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)<br />
# Foreigners who sign government documents &#8220;with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses&#8221; are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)</p>
<p>Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:<br />
# Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)<br />
# Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)<br />
# Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico &#8212; such as working with out a permit &#8212; can also be imprisoned.</p>
<p>Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,<br />
# &#8220;A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.&#8221; (Article 123)<br />
# Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)<br />
# Foreigners who &#8220;attempt against national sovereignty or security&#8221; will be deported. (Article 126)</p>
<p>Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:<br />
# A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)<br />
# Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)</p>
<p>All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think I will have to do a post solely dedicated to this as adopting a Mexican style immigration law would be interesting as the author I quotes states.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15143</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solutions are only possible if there is political will and what I addressed was the lack of it, to put it mildly, among the current crop of the likely nominees for both parties.  I have just seen an analysis at &quot;Free Republic&quot; of the Senatorial seats in flux and in jeopardy in November.  This kind of thinking needs to be expanded, a counter-strategy to the amnesty developed, and an effort mobilized to counter the Presidential threat.  Let me quote from the analysis:

A total of thirteen Class II Senate seats, currently held by Senators that took stances on Immigration Reform Legislation in 2007, are expected to have strong competition in the November General Elections.  Ten opposed the amnesty bill, while three favored the bill.

Of the Class II Republican Senators voting Nay on Immigration Reform Legislation, 9 seats will face strong competition.  The two Republicans that supported the amnesty packages are due to leave office.

Of the Class II Democratic Senators voting Nay on Immigration Reform Legislation, 1 will face strong competition.  Additionally, 1 additional Senator absent due to health problems at the time votes were cast is a supporter of those measures, and may face stiff competition due to those health concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solutions are only possible if there is political will and what I addressed was the lack of it, to put it mildly, among the current crop of the likely nominees for both parties.  I have just seen an analysis at &#8220;Free Republic&#8221; of the Senatorial seats in flux and in jeopardy in November.  This kind of thinking needs to be expanded, a counter-strategy to the amnesty developed, and an effort mobilized to counter the Presidential threat.  Let me quote from the analysis:</p>
<p>A total of thirteen Class II Senate seats, currently held by Senators that took stances on Immigration Reform Legislation in 2007, are expected to have strong competition in the November General Elections.  Ten opposed the amnesty bill, while three favored the bill.</p>
<p>Of the Class II Republican Senators voting Nay on Immigration Reform Legislation, 9 seats will face strong competition.  The two Republicans that supported the amnesty packages are due to leave office.</p>
<p>Of the Class II Democratic Senators voting Nay on Immigration Reform Legislation, 1 will face strong competition.  Additionally, 1 additional Senator absent due to health problems at the time votes were cast is a supporter of those measures, and may face stiff competition due to those health concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15139</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;I consider this wishful thinking. &quot;

Perhaps it is.  While my personal &quot;simple&quot; solution is to buuild a fence and throw employers who hire illegals in jail, I also understand that they are by no means as &quot;simple&quot; as my glib comment implies.

For one thing, if I recall correctly, most of the illegal aliens in the US did not cross the river but merely overstayed legitimate visas (tourist, student, ...), so a fence of any kind is not going to stop them (anyone with better knowledge than I, please check me on that one).

Secondly, citizenship verification is not as simple as I make it sound, considering the multitude of potential documents and the popular resistance to a national identity card (although a passport certainly comes close, so perhaps requiring that every American seeking a job first obtain a passpport might be a back door method of accomplishing exacctly that.

But any &quot;solution&quot; to the illegals is certainly not going to come out of election sloganeering, even if it is a slogan I might like to hear (Bumper Sticker thinking is dangerous, no matter who practices it).  So I hope whomever is elected at least waits a decent interval and tries to come up with something that is at least partly workable and not pandering too much (even if it is a &quot;pander&quot; I might like).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;I consider this wishful thinking. &#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps it is.  While my personal &#8220;simple&#8221; solution is to buuild a fence and throw employers who hire illegals in jail, I also understand that they are by no means as &#8220;simple&#8221; as my glib comment implies.</p>
<p>For one thing, if I recall correctly, most of the illegal aliens in the US did not cross the river but merely overstayed legitimate visas (tourist, student, &#8230;), so a fence of any kind is not going to stop them (anyone with better knowledge than I, please check me on that one).</p>
<p>Secondly, citizenship verification is not as simple as I make it sound, considering the multitude of potential documents and the popular resistance to a national identity card (although a passport certainly comes close, so perhaps requiring that every American seeking a job first obtain a passpport might be a back door method of accomplishing exacctly that.</p>
<p>But any &#8220;solution&#8221; to the illegals is certainly not going to come out of election sloganeering, even if it is a slogan I might like to hear (Bumper Sticker thinking is dangerous, no matter who practices it).  So I hope whomever is elected at least waits a decent interval and tries to come up with something that is at least partly workable and not pandering too much (even if it is a &#8220;pander&#8221; I might like).</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15138</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody is already reacting to my concerns with a counter-strategy.  This needs to be publicized and used to mobilize a pre-emptive effort:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966125/posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody is already reacting to my concerns with a counter-strategy.  This needs to be publicized and used to mobilize a pre-emptive effort:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966125/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966125/posts</a></p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15135</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;- I am less inclined to believe that the next president will push hard to “legalize the illegals”. This has become something os a political &lt;strong&gt;third-rail&lt;/strong&gt; and I would predict that any president will duck and hide from getting out in front of this one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I consider this wishful thinking.  This &quot;third-rail&quot; didn&#039;t stop a presumptive Republican nominee and much less likely to be troublesome to Hillary given how well she did among the Hispanics.  McCain seems obsessed with this issue based on his behavior last summer and any Democrat realizes the value of creating a permanent Democratic majority.  

Many of us believed Fred could win.  He had no chance after a few realities became known.  Facing unpleasant realities is better than denying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>- I am less inclined to believe that the next president will push hard to “legalize the illegals”. This has become something os a political <strong>third-rail</strong> and I would predict that any president will duck and hide from getting out in front of this one.</p></blockquote>
<p>I consider this wishful thinking.  This &#8220;third-rail&#8221; didn&#8217;t stop a presumptive Republican nominee and much less likely to be troublesome to Hillary given how well she did among the Hispanics.  McCain seems obsessed with this issue based on his behavior last summer and any Democrat realizes the value of creating a permanent Democratic majority.  </p>
<p>Many of us believed Fred could win.  He had no chance after a few realities became known.  Facing unpleasant realities is better than denying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15129</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Activist judges = Souter and the rest of the clowns
P-E-R-I-O-D.

As far as your example, name the decision.  If your gonna name Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company then your sorely mistaken since giving corporations the same status as individuals under the 14th amendment was not ruled on by the court.  They decided the case on other grounds.  The court reporter at the time included a justices comment on the matter in the headnotes and ta-da, legal precedence was born which has been whittled away ever since.  If your trying to compare the two decisions then you obviously got other problems, one of which I surmise is a severe case of BDS.  Not surprising coming from a Salon fanboi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Activist judges = Souter and the rest of the clowns<br />
P-E-R-I-O-D.</p>
<p>As far as your example, name the decision.  If your gonna name Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company then your sorely mistaken since giving corporations the same status as individuals under the 14th amendment was not ruled on by the court.  They decided the case on other grounds.  The court reporter at the time included a justices comment on the matter in the headnotes and ta-da, legal precedence was born which has been whittled away ever since.  If your trying to compare the two decisions then you obviously got other problems, one of which I surmise is a severe case of BDS.  Not surprising coming from a Salon fanboi.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert in BA</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15127</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert in BA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Activist judges=the Rehnquist-wing in Bush v Gore 2000.
P-E-R-I-O-D.

As for rights that don&#039;t exist in the Constitution, who decided a corporation had the rights of individuals?  ThaT DECISION Makes finding the right to privacy in Roe v Wade look like child&#039;s play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Activist judges=the Rehnquist-wing in Bush v Gore 2000.<br />
P-E-R-I-O-D.</p>
<p>As for rights that don&#8217;t exist in the Constitution, who decided a corporation had the rights of individuals?  ThaT DECISION Makes finding the right to privacy in Roe v Wade look like child&#8217;s play.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15118</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other then shredding the Constitution?  Are you kidding me?  One of the worst decisions in the last century based on a right that does not exist in the Constitution, that being the right to privacy.  Abortion was a State matter before RvW, and should be a State matter today.  Medical procedures are not addressed in the Constitution, the powers to regulate them are not a federal issue. 

Judicial activism was the result and one of the main reasons why Hillary/Obama needs to be defeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other then shredding the Constitution?  Are you kidding me?  One of the worst decisions in the last century based on a right that does not exist in the Constitution, that being the right to privacy.  Abortion was a State matter before RvW, and should be a State matter today.  Medical procedures are not addressed in the Constitution, the powers to regulate them are not a federal issue. </p>
<p>Judicial activism was the result and one of the main reasons why Hillary/Obama needs to be defeated.</p>
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		<title>By: ShawnB</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15112</link>
		<dc:creator>ShawnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to your &quot;Super Tuesday Thoughts&quot; blog, I would like to ask you a question in all sincerity. What is it that you think Roe v. Wade &#039;did to our country?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to your &#8220;Super Tuesday Thoughts&#8221; blog, I would like to ask you a question in all sincerity. What is it that you think Roe v. Wade &#8216;did to our country?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-thoughts/#comment-15096</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that all three of the predictions are making the rounds.  Personally I do not believe that any of them are that certain.

-John McCain is, IMO, as likely to not name Mike Huckabee as his VP, if for no other reason than the &quot;experts&quot; say that he has to.  That does appear to be a basic part of his personality:  One I like.

-John McCain, or whomever the Republican party nominates is not certain to lose in November.  The Republican party can command a very loyal base (not a criticism, so can the Democrats).  And the Republican Party, even though its presidential candidates are trailing badly in fundraising, can still command a lot of money when it comes to directing money in the general election.  That has been the pattern in the past where Republican and Democratic presidential candidates were pretty evenly matched in funds, but on a party level the Republicans has two or three times the money.  Add to that a look at the electoral college map:  The electoral votes are skewed heavily toward Republican strongholds.  The example given most often is to compare California to the Rock Mountain states.  If you add them up, both &quot;blocks&quot; have about the same population, however, due to their being individual states, the dependable Republican Rocky Mountain stattes have collectively about thirty more electoral votes than does California (the numbers are roughly from my memory, but if you look to any of the &quot;abolish the Electoral College&quot; web sites, you can see the math).  With that in mind, I would never assume that a Republican Party nominee for President cannot be elected.

- I am less inclined to believe that the next president will push hard to &quot;legalize the illegals&quot;.  This has become something os a political third-rail and I would predict that any president will duck and hide from getting out in front of this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that all three of the predictions are making the rounds.  Personally I do not believe that any of them are that certain.</p>
<p>-John McCain is, IMO, as likely to not name Mike Huckabee as his VP, if for no other reason than the &#8220;experts&#8221; say that he has to.  That does appear to be a basic part of his personality:  One I like.</p>
<p>-John McCain, or whomever the Republican party nominates is not certain to lose in November.  The Republican party can command a very loyal base (not a criticism, so can the Democrats).  And the Republican Party, even though its presidential candidates are trailing badly in fundraising, can still command a lot of money when it comes to directing money in the general election.  That has been the pattern in the past where Republican and Democratic presidential candidates were pretty evenly matched in funds, but on a party level the Republicans has two or three times the money.  Add to that a look at the electoral college map:  The electoral votes are skewed heavily toward Republican strongholds.  The example given most often is to compare California to the Rock Mountain states.  If you add them up, both &#8220;blocks&#8221; have about the same population, however, due to their being individual states, the dependable Republican Rocky Mountain stattes have collectively about thirty more electoral votes than does California (the numbers are roughly from my memory, but if you look to any of the &#8220;abolish the Electoral College&#8221; web sites, you can see the math).  With that in mind, I would never assume that a Republican Party nominee for President cannot be elected.</p>
<p>- I am less inclined to believe that the next president will push hard to &#8220;legalize the illegals&#8221;.  This has become something os a political third-rail and I would predict that any president will duck and hide from getting out in front of this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some simple fact-like predictions that are very difficult to disprove:

-McCain will HAVE to make Huck his VP, because Huck has already said he wants the job and Huck will have the delegates McCain needs to win the magic number.

-McCain WILL NOT win the general election no matter what he does and you can see it by comparing the number of votes in the Dem primaries vs. the Pubby primaries.

-Whoever wins the general WILL legalize the illegals. The illegals WILL bring their families over. This WILL result in the permanent (meaning the lifetimes of anyone reading this) Democratic majority.

Now enjoy the rest of the primary season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some simple fact-like predictions that are very difficult to disprove:</p>
<p>-McCain will HAVE to make Huck his VP, because Huck has already said he wants the job and Huck will have the delegates McCain needs to win the magic number.</p>
<p>-McCain WILL NOT win the general election no matter what he does and you can see it by comparing the number of votes in the Dem primaries vs. the Pubby primaries.</p>
<p>-Whoever wins the general WILL legalize the illegals. The illegals WILL bring their families over. This WILL result in the permanent (meaning the lifetimes of anyone reading this) Democratic majority.</p>
<p>Now enjoy the rest of the primary season.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Steve, that argument makes as much sense as a Clark/Sharpton ticket would have in 2004 for the Democrats.&quot;

In 1976 Ronald Reagan designated Senator Schweiker of Pennsylvania, one of the most liberal senators in the capitol (back when being Liberal meant something) as his VP candidate during the primaries.  So stranger things have happened.

I would tend to doubt it as well.  But given the degree to which the &quot;Religious Right&quot; still have not forgiven John McCain for his &quot;agents of intolerance&quot; comment in the 2000 primaries, such a selection would certainly be an olive branch to the core of the Republican party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Steve, that argument makes as much sense as a Clark/Sharpton ticket would have in 2004 for the Democrats.&#8221;</p>
<p>In 1976 Ronald Reagan designated Senator Schweiker of Pennsylvania, one of the most liberal senators in the capitol (back when being Liberal meant something) as his VP candidate during the primaries.  So stranger things have happened.</p>
<p>I would tend to doubt it as well.  But given the degree to which the &#8220;Religious Right&#8221; still have not forgiven John McCain for his &#8220;agents of intolerance&#8221; comment in the 2000 primaries, such a selection would certainly be an olive branch to the core of the Republican party.</p>
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		<title>By: CentFla</title>
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		<dc:creator>CentFla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thanks to all the dumb independents and myopic conservatives; DON’T COMPLAIN after rotten judges are chosen, taxes are raised, and McCain makes pathetic deals with the Dems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was McCain&#039;s group of 14 that got Alito confirmed.  Without him and that group of moderates we would have been in a filibuster still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thanks to all the dumb independents and myopic conservatives; DON’T COMPLAIN after rotten judges are chosen, taxes are raised, and McCain makes pathetic deals with the Dems.</p></blockquote>
<p>It was McCain&#8217;s group of 14 that got Alito confirmed.  Without him and that group of moderates we would have been in a filibuster still.</p>
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		<title>By: reckless</title>
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		<dc:creator>reckless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In oklahoma independents are not allowed to vote in Primaries. How many other state suppress independent votes? 14% of all voters voted for Perot in 92. I bet most of those were conservatives. 

The swing voters are not in the middle. We are on the outside ends. Conservatives, absent Romney, no longer have a dog in the presidential race. McCain is going to have do a whole lot of singing to get their support. Without it he will lose just like Dole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In oklahoma independents are not allowed to vote in Primaries. How many other state suppress independent votes? 14% of all voters voted for Perot in 92. I bet most of those were conservatives. </p>
<p>The swing voters are not in the middle. We are on the outside ends. Conservatives, absent Romney, no longer have a dog in the presidential race. McCain is going to have do a whole lot of singing to get their support. Without it he will lose just like Dole.</p>
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