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	<title>Comments on: McCain &#038; Obama See Eye to Eye On Illegal Immigration</title>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14561</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now that Ah-nuld's wifey has endorsed Obama after her DH endorsed McCain we know that there is little to no difference in the two. How's that for a back door Kennedy endorsement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now that Ah-nuld&#8217;s wifey has endorsed Obama after her DH endorsed McCain we know that there is little to no difference in the two. How&#8217;s that for a back door Kennedy endorsement?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14503</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: I really enjoyed meeting 95 year old Roberta McCain at the house party here in November:

http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com/2007/11/john-mccain-visits-mikes-america.html

If she was the candidate and not her son I would be right there helping her win. And in cases like this, she's offering the "straight talk" while her son seems to be trying to ignore the problem he himself has created over years of proudly sticking it in the eye of conservatives.

McCain has garned a great deal of support from elected GOP leaders. But most of that only came about after he started winning.

The base who he has insulted these many years is not about to be taken in.

Forgive me if you've heard me say this already, but McCain made it very clear to me in that November meeting that if I disagreed with him on these issue that I should not vote for him. "I'm not your candidate" he said. Then he followed that up by saying "tell your blogging friends" too.

I'll hold my nose and vote for him if he is the nominee. But let the moderates, libs and Independents who are the voting base for McCain go out and do the grass roots campaign grunt work.

The problem is that McCain may discover how totally unreliable those mushy middle voters are but it will be too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: I really enjoyed meeting 95 year old Roberta McCain at the house party here in November:</p>
<p><a href="http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com/2007/11/john-mccain-visits-mikes-america.html" rel="nofollow">http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com/2007/11/john-mccain-visits-mikes-america.html</a></p>
<p>If she was the candidate and not her son I would be right there helping her win. And in cases like this, she&#8217;s offering the &#8220;straight talk&#8221; while her son seems to be trying to ignore the problem he himself has created over years of proudly sticking it in the eye of conservatives.</p>
<p>McCain has garned a great deal of support from elected GOP leaders. But most of that only came about after he started winning.</p>
<p>The base who he has insulted these many years is not about to be taken in.</p>
<p>Forgive me if you&#8217;ve heard me say this already, but McCain made it very clear to me in that November meeting that if I disagreed with him on these issue that I should not vote for him. &#8220;I&#8217;m not your candidate&#8221; he said. Then he followed that up by saying &#8220;tell your blogging friends&#8221; too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll hold my nose and vote for him if he is the nominee. But let the moderates, libs and Independents who are the voting base for McCain go out and do the grass roots campaign grunt work.</p>
<p>The problem is that McCain may discover how totally unreliable those mushy middle voters are but it will be too late.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14446</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the McCain momentum, sure he's winning but doing so with far fewer votes than in 2000 when he was running against George W. Bush. This seems to be very telling, and should be taken as a bit disturbing about how he would fare in the general election. Also, there was an article last week on the web in which McC's mother says her son has very little support from the GOP base. Mike probably can speak to this better than any of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the McCain momentum, sure he&#8217;s winning but doing so with far fewer votes than in 2000 when he was running against George W. Bush. This seems to be very telling, and should be taken as a bit disturbing about how he would fare in the general election. Also, there was an article last week on the web in which McC&#8217;s mother says her son has very little support from the GOP base. Mike probably can speak to this better than any of us.</p>
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		<title>By: CentFla</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14435</link>
		<dc:creator>CentFla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>syn I wish things were as simple as you want them to be.  But there were many Methodist Preachers (and Church Member - I am a Methodist) that Supported Bush and he launched an offensive war which is also against Church Principles (not to mention the Beatitudes - check Matthew).  The world is not a single issue situation.

And frankly, I can not understand how any person alive could think that Romney is a good candidate for President.  Were you fooled by the hunting varmits speech or the flip flop from promising to "out liberal" Ted Kennedy when he lost to Ted in a Senate election?

We already had a CEO president and he was dreadful (and continues to be).  Further, Mitt has spent 8x more on getting his message out than McCain and he is 72 hours away from realizing that it is over.  When you pay that much to get your word out and you are still getting spanked you must not have much of a message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>syn I wish things were as simple as you want them to be.  But there were many Methodist Preachers (and Church Member - I am a Methodist) that Supported Bush and he launched an offensive war which is also against Church Principles (not to mention the Beatitudes - check Matthew).  The world is not a single issue situation.</p>
<p>And frankly, I can not understand how any person alive could think that Romney is a good candidate for President.  Were you fooled by the hunting varmits speech or the flip flop from promising to &#8220;out liberal&#8221; Ted Kennedy when he lost to Ted in a Senate election?</p>
<p>We already had a CEO president and he was dreadful (and continues to be).  Further, Mitt has spent 8x more on getting his message out than McCain and he is 72 hours away from realizing that it is over.  When you pay that much to get your word out and you are still getting spanked you must not have much of a message.</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate's Cove</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14430</link>
		<dc:creator>Pirate's Cove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup - Super Bowl Edition...&lt;/strong&gt;

 
Happy Sunday! The Sun is shining, the birds are singing, the Super Bowl will be played (surrounded by way too many commercials and an idiotic halftime show.) Another fantastic day in the USA. These pinups are by Ted Hammond, no need to add the Flag,...</description>
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Happy Sunday! The Sun is shining, the birds are singing, the Super Bowl will be played (surrounded by way too many commercials and an idiotic halftime show.) Another fantastic day in the USA. These pinups are by Ted Hammond, no need to add the Flag,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: syn</title>
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		<dc:creator>syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romney is the only candidate who gets the Islmaic Jihadist game; take some brass ball to reject PC 'terrorist' or 'radical' Islam. 

Though he wasn't my first choice, now with Fred out I understand Romney will use his good business sense to makes useful cuts to meaningless government jobs.

As for the social issues, as long as there are Methodist ministers endorsing politicans (ie Obama)who voted to continue partial-birth abortion practice, what difference does it make if a candidate is 'pro-life'.  What is the point of supporting and defending the social issues when the faithful inside the church do not?  R v W is a bad law however it dosen't help that decade after decade members of faith continue voting against their values in order to receive the government's golden entitlement coins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney is the only candidate who gets the Islmaic Jihadist game; take some brass ball to reject PC &#8216;terrorist&#8217; or &#8216;radical&#8217; Islam. </p>
<p>Though he wasn&#8217;t my first choice, now with Fred out I understand Romney will use his good business sense to makes useful cuts to meaningless government jobs.</p>
<p>As for the social issues, as long as there are Methodist ministers endorsing politicans (ie Obama)who voted to continue partial-birth abortion practice, what difference does it make if a candidate is &#8216;pro-life&#8217;.  What is the point of supporting and defending the social issues when the faithful inside the church do not?  R v W is a bad law however it dosen&#8217;t help that decade after decade members of faith continue voting against their values in order to receive the government&#8217;s golden entitlement coins.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Toonage John McCain</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14378</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Toonage John McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Global Warming &#8220;Why buy the cow, when you&#8217;re getting the milk for free&#8221;&#8230;. McCain &#38; Obama See Eye to Eye On Illegal Immigration Romney Picks Up Maine H/T&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Global Warming &#8220;Why buy the cow, when you&#8217;re getting the milk for free&#8221;&#8230;. McCain &#38; Obama See Eye to Eye On Illegal Immigration Romney Picks Up Maine H/T&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14375</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romney isn't McCain, but would someone explain to me how that makes him a conservative? I don't see it. It's true that Romney has a good business resume, but so did McNamara. Good in business isn't the first thing I'm looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney isn&#8217;t McCain, but would someone explain to me how that makes him a conservative? I don&#8217;t see it. It&#8217;s true that Romney has a good business resume, but so did McNamara. Good in business isn&#8217;t the first thing I&#8217;m looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14355</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all these debates when the subject of immigration comes up the moderator rarely presses the candidates beyond their prepared talking points. In the case of McCain and Huckabee that's border security first. But have we asked McCain, or Huckabee, whether they still support the remainder of the McCain-Kennedy Senate Immigration plan including the infamous "Z" visa which grants illegals immediate legal status and all they have to do is "promise" to learn English but can renew the visa indefinetly without doing so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all these debates when the subject of immigration comes up the moderator rarely presses the candidates beyond their prepared talking points. In the case of McCain and Huckabee that&#8217;s border security first. But have we asked McCain, or Huckabee, whether they still support the remainder of the McCain-Kennedy Senate Immigration plan including the infamous &#8220;Z&#8221; visa which grants illegals immediate legal status and all they have to do is &#8220;promise&#8221; to learn English but can renew the visa indefinetly without doing so?</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/02/mccain-obama-see-eye-to-eye-on-illegal-immigration/#comment-14344</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;who’ll be crawling back on his knees searching for the good graces of the McCain administration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You must be joking?  I was taking your arguments seriously before but after that line I'm gonna have to rethink that now.

Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>who’ll be crawling back on his knees searching for the good graces of the McCain administration.</p></blockquote>
<p>You must be joking?  I was taking your arguments seriously before but after that line I&#8217;m gonna have to rethink that now.</p>
<p>Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Americaneocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Americaneocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I disagree with him on that..."

None of rest of the stuff is new. Levin's a Limbaugh hatchet man who'll be crawling back on his knees searching for the good graces of the McCain administration.

The tide's turned. Folks are hopping on the Straight Talk Express, warts and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I disagree with him on that&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>None of rest of the stuff is new. Levin&#8217;s a Limbaugh hatchet man who&#8217;ll be crawling back on his knees searching for the good graces of the McCain administration.</p>
<p>The tide&#8217;s turned. Folks are hopping on the Straight Talk Express, warts and all.</p>
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		<title>By: jainphx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jainphx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is a secret to who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is a secret to who?</p>
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