Hillary, Illegals, & The Debate

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Funny funny stuff. Here is Hillary tonight at the debate saying why she opposes drivers licenses for illegals: (h/t Hot Air)

Hot Air has the transcript:

HRC: I do not think it is appropriate to give a drivers license to someone who is here undocumented, putting them frankly at risk, because that is clear evidence that they are not here legally.


Soooooo, no DL’s for those rascally illegals because heaven forbid, they might get caught.

But then not so long ago she was FOR the DL’s because that will keep them safe:

Only a Clinton.

I didn’t watch the debate but here is Scott Johnson’s take on it:

Ms. Hillary seems to me to have had the upper hand with Barack Obama in the debate on CNN this evening. Obama was more than a sideshow, but Ms. Hillary dominated the proceedings. Obama’s repeated invocation of his work as a community organizer is thin gruel for the messianic campaign he is waging.

Clinton and Obama are nevertheless joined at the hip in the demagoguery and snake oil peddled by the McGovernized Democratic Party. Ms. Hillary revels in exploiting the stupidity of the Democratic base. Does anyone seriously think that “freezing interst rates for five years” (Clinton’s proposal) will not have unintended consequences like other price controls?

Obama doesn’t take issue with Ms. Hillary on any matter of principle. The journalists posing the questions share the assumptions of the Democratic candidates and the questions are therefore at the same low level as the candidates’ answers.

And VDH gives us a the quick rundown of why Hillary must be opposed, even if its a vote for McCain:

If one studies carefully the Clintama answers on the war on terror, illegal immigration, and Iraq then the magnitude of Republican infighting seems surreal. The gulf between Hillary and McCain is Grand-Canyon like. This debate came down to Obama, talking in vague generalities about change, still without offering any specifics on anything that might be construed as hurtful and thus force him down from Olympus to the messy smelly world of mere mortals, and Hillary’s Bill-like ‘I did so much and suffered so much for all of you’ sanctimoniousness, coupled with ‘George Bush did it’ — and always that disturbing cackle. To the extent that there is any plan detectable in the generalities, it is get out of Iraq regardless of the conditions, expect that Syria and Iran will be in bad trouble if we leave (go figure), and keep illegal immigration mostly at the status quo of 700,000 a year coming across and another 11-16 million already here. When you have so many identity pressure groups who are single-minded in what they want-La Raza, the anti-war zealots, the Black Caucus, feminist pro-abortion zealots, unionized teachers and government workers-you have to say everything and thus nothing.

If McCain gets the nomination, I would have to believe that the Republican sit-out would only last midsummer until they could not take Sen. Clinton no more, and thus like Lancelot at Camlan belatedly enter the fray.

Here is to hope!

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For illegal DLs, now against it

HotAir has a nice clip of Senator Clinton saying she’s against drivers licenses for illegal aliens, AND
they have the contrasting clip from an earlier debate showing she was originally supportive of giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens.

Even Dems can’t keep track of her positions sometimes. Recall that this was the subject of a Sen Edwards ad immediately after her first positions on the issue.

The Political Analysis, the Democratic debate.
Both Democratic candidates are very good. Obama or Hillary has “the ability” to become President. Obama has a very interesting charisma that is very likable. Hillary, has fifteen years at least of Media slam to over come historically what many consider is likeable with a brilliant career. Hillary is a person I grew up with and watched in the public arena regardless of the media or political analyst.

The one thing that is most striking in the negatives is Hillary will definitely change the direction of money flow in the country which is precisely what the Neo-Con doesn’t want. And for Bill to have a second chance with the hind sight and extraordinary time with experience as a previous president an ideal that is historically presented as an incredible opportunity that very well would change the dynamics of the Democratic movement.

Moreover, across the Board, most of the Media, takes the silly position to cry about the ideal that there is not considerably more money to be made within a Clinton economic approach than the current Neo-Con Bush/war approach. Which Clinton’s is very likely to be better. Also, it should be injected that a huge opportunity to redeem himself, Bill Clinton, for poor personal judgments made with his involvement with Lewinski. Here the Evangelist may vote for him to give him the chance, they are forgiving but would like responsible action on abortion and same sex marriage which is possible.

They both are great politicians to support, but Obama is so new I needed some way to get to know him. Because with that said Obama has little experience in the ways of power and money, were in a lot of ways the Clinton’s out rank Obama enormously. So, I bought Obama’s book called “Audacity of Hope” to get some ideal of what is in Obama’s head. There are a few surprises which are a disappointment that I will share with you, but read it for your self, likely you all my come away with a different point of view, but that’s life.

My view takes a trip into this ideal were Obama is on a rant along with media that supports Obama and his stand against the war in Iraq. There is a huge gap in the understanding and the thought process of real time experience here. Especially displayed by Huffington her descriptions and that other fellow, forgot his name, and actually who answered his own question. Making claim Hillary had no good reason to support her argument in her vote for the war.
Sheesh, indeed the whole intelligence system had been manipulated, massaged, tweaked, and cooked very well to confuse not only the electorate, but the representatives. How could anyone make the right choice at that time? And, here, the media constantly asking for an apology from Hillary because of her choice in voting for the resolution with the majority, all the while dismissing the ideal we know now the execution to get the job done was horrible, and still the media continues to talk about that ? Amazing.

The real high light is the fact that Obama did not officially act as a Senator till “after” all this voting was done on the Iraq War resolution. An extremely important place in time to dismiss. From my point of view this adds a great deal of irresponsibility to not only Obama but to those in the media that completely ignore the fact Obama did not have to participate in the stress, evaluation, person interactions, and real record in a recorded vote glaringly by the majority of the Senate.

Here, Obama did not have to buckle up in the Senate seat to make the historic vote and have it recorded for posterity. Obama can just express his opinion, make speeches, and reject the war in Iraq. Sorry but that’s easy for anyone to do. For those who see this in that penetrating way, like I do, it’s sad for a man to use his influence this way, especially as a presidential candidate. That’s scary.