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		<title>By: Soro&#8217;s Funded Bile Treated As Hard News &#171; Nice Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soro&#8217;s Funded Bile Treated As Hard News &#171; Nice Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] know this story has been covered pretty extensively by practically every conservative blogger in the rightwingblogosphere, but I can&#8217;t resist the urge to get a few licks in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know this story has been covered pretty extensively by practically every conservative blogger in the rightwingblogosphere, but I can&#8217;t resist the urge to get a few licks in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush hater Dan Froomkin uncritically laps it up:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/01/23/BL2008012301758.html?hpid=opinionsbox1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush hater Dan Froomkin uncritically laps it up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/01/23/BL2008012301758.html?hpid=opinionsbox1" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/01/23/BL2008012301758.html?hpid=opinionsbox1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There has been no historical precedent of an administration this incompetent."

That, is called spin.  You can't face the truth, so you distort reality to fit your political bias.  The reality is that HISTORIANS will point out that there is no historical example of an occupation that has gone worse than the occupation of Iraq.  Politics aside, you can't argue with that historical fact, and as such your claims of an ineptly handled occupation lack historical substance, and they are based soley on your political propaganda and heavily biased opinion/agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There has been no historical precedent of an administration this incompetent.&#8221;</p>
<p>That, is called spin.  You can&#8217;t face the truth, so you distort reality to fit your political bias.  The reality is that HISTORIANS will point out that there is no historical example of an occupation that has gone worse than the occupation of Iraq.  Politics aside, you can&#8217;t argue with that historical fact, and as such your claims of an ineptly handled occupation lack historical substance, and they are based soley on your political propaganda and heavily biased opinion/agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, can you give me an example of some of the 'lies' uttered by Bush that wasn't also said by the Demcrats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, can you give me an example of some of the &#8216;lies&#8217; uttered by Bush that wasn&#8217;t also said by the Demcrats?</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: "You keep asserting that the occupation was incompetently handled, but without a historical precedent of similar scale and condition to prove your point, it’s just your heavily biased opinion-which is worthless and losing respect with every cut/paste talking point you repeat sans substance."

There has been no historical precedent of an administration this incompetent.

The blunders have been documented, time and time again.  The fact that Conservatives, in their zeal to deny any hint of accountability on the part of Geroge W. Bush, pretend the facts do not exist just means they live in the same bubble with George W. Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;You keep asserting that the occupation was incompetently handled, but without a historical precedent of similar scale and condition to prove your point, it’s just your heavily biased opinion-which is worthless and losing respect with every cut/paste talking point you repeat sans substance.&#8221;</p>
<p>There has been no historical precedent of an administration this incompetent.</p>
<p>The blunders have been documented, time and time again.  The fact that Conservatives, in their zeal to deny any hint of accountability on the part of Geroge W. Bush, pretend the facts do not exist just means they live in the same bubble with George W. Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philly Steve wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Here we go again.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup....   &lt;img src="http://www.democraticwarrior.com/forum/images/smilies/moron.gif" alt="" /&gt;

"here we go again".   &lt;img src="http://www.democraticwarrior.com/forum/images/smilies/ahgg_jerkit.gif" alt="" /&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;The blind defenders of George W. Bush &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Making you....what?   "the blind attacker"?  

It amazes me that after all of your time spent here, you would label us "blind".  It demonstrates an unwillingness to engage in actual thought and reflection and dialogue.

&lt;blockquote&gt;the ignoring of the Iraqi Foreign Minister’s information in 2002..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See?  This is a &lt;a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/09/2008-election-resonance/#comment-11695" rel="nofollow"&gt;prime example&lt;/a&gt; of your willful unwillingness to look beyond your own mental echo chamber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philly Steve wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Here we go again.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup&#8230;.   <img src="http://www.democraticwarrior.com/forum/images/smilies/moron.gif" alt="" /></p>
<p>&#8220;here we go again&#8221;.   <img src="http://www.democraticwarrior.com/forum/images/smilies/ahgg_jerkit.gif" alt="" /></p>
<blockquote><p>The blind defenders of George W. Bush </p></blockquote>
<p>Making you&#8230;.what?   &#8220;the blind attacker&#8221;?  </p>
<p>It amazes me that after all of your time spent here, you would label us &#8220;blind&#8221;.  It demonstrates an unwillingness to engage in actual thought and reflection and dialogue.</p>
<blockquote><p>the ignoring of the Iraqi Foreign Minister’s information in 2002..</p></blockquote>
<p>See?  This is a <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/09/2008-election-resonance/#comment-11695" rel="nofollow">prime example</a> of your willful unwillingness to look beyond your own mental echo chamber.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF, Thanks for the posting. I have it saved on my computer and was going to post it myself. Scrapiron,SMsgt (ret), USAF. 
Phili Steve is a perfect example of a brain dead democrat. Funny that a USC study (03-04) determined that 47% of the American people need mental health care and 47% of the voters voted democrat in 04. Pretty telling match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF, Thanks for the posting. I have it saved on my computer and was going to post it myself. Scrapiron,SMsgt (ret), USAF.<br />
Phili Steve is a perfect example of a brain dead democrat. Funny that a USC study (03-04) determined that 47% of the American people need mental health care and 47% of the voters voted democrat in 04. Pretty telling match.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"wish could be president-for-life."

More leftist projectionism -- you, Phili Steve, and your leftist nitwits are the ones who would love a president for life, not us.  

Your smears of President Bush are lame and pathetic -- you have been thoroughly debunked here, but you still cling, like a child clings to an empty box of candy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;wish could be president-for-life.&#8221;</p>
<p>More leftist projectionism &#8212; you, Phili Steve, and your leftist nitwits are the ones who would love a president for life, not us.  </p>
<p>Your smears of President Bush are lame and pathetic &#8212; you have been thoroughly debunked here, but you still cling, like a child clings to an empty box of candy.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same old fiction with a new title. Didn't work before with the old titles, still doesn't work with the new title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same old fiction with a new title. Didn&#8217;t work before with the old titles, still doesn&#8217;t work with the new title.</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Imagine That...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Associated Press breathlessly ran a press release from a George Soros funded interest group claiming that they've proven that President Bush and other members of his administration lied about WMD in Iraq....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Imagine That&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Associated Press breathlessly ran a press release from a George Soros funded interest group claiming that they&#8217;ve proven that President Bush and other members of his administration lied about WMD in Iraq&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You keep asserting that the occupation was incompetently handled, but without a historical precedent of similar scale and condition to prove your point, it's just your heavily biased opinion-which is worthless and losing respect with every cut/paste talking point you repeat sans substance.

The so-called alibis for President Bush are so-called and are at the same time in complete contrast to the facts which this report and so many others ignore in favor of political partisanship, denial in support of that partisanship, and distraction from the reality which is that President Bush is a lame duck and raving about him does nothing, but using the lessons of the past to make our decisions on the future is of critical importance.  Among those lessons is the pure and simple fact that Sen Clinton and Sen Edwards demonstrated equal or greater incompetence, ignorance, and/or misleading re the war in Iraq, and holding them to account for this can actually do something for the future while holding the President accountable no longer does.  His moment of atonement was the 2004 election.

Among the things I find truly amazing is that someone would rail in support of this report without even reading it, and then comment upon it with talking points that have been thoroughly and completely debunked so many times already (for example the bit about the Iraqi foreign minister "turning"...what a joke).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep asserting that the occupation was incompetently handled, but without a historical precedent of similar scale and condition to prove your point, it&#8217;s just your heavily biased opinion-which is worthless and losing respect with every cut/paste talking point you repeat sans substance.</p>
<p>The so-called alibis for President Bush are so-called and are at the same time in complete contrast to the facts which this report and so many others ignore in favor of political partisanship, denial in support of that partisanship, and distraction from the reality which is that President Bush is a lame duck and raving about him does nothing, but using the lessons of the past to make our decisions on the future is of critical importance.  Among those lessons is the pure and simple fact that Sen Clinton and Sen Edwards demonstrated equal or greater incompetence, ignorance, and/or misleading re the war in Iraq, and holding them to account for this can actually do something for the future while holding the President accountable no longer does.  His moment of atonement was the 2004 election.</p>
<p>Among the things I find truly amazing is that someone would rail in support of this report without even reading it, and then comment upon it with talking points that have been thoroughly and completely debunked so many times already (for example the bit about the Iraqi foreign minister &#8220;turning&#8221;&#8230;what a joke).</p>
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		<title>By: pagar</title>
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		<dc:creator>pagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Scott, 158 pages refuting leftist lies, that's awesome. Even Snopes (who IMO try really hard to avoid condemming any leftist statement) has a long &lt;a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;Article&lt;/a&gt;
admitting the leftist did make statements that Saddam had WMD and must go. Course they try to hedge their statements by trying to say that some were out of context, that some statements were political statements and not meant to be believed, etc,etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Scott, 158 pages refuting leftist lies, that&#8217;s awesome. Even Snopes (who IMO try really hard to avoid condemming any leftist statement) has a long <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp" rel="nofollow">Article</a><br />
admitting the leftist did make statements that Saddam had WMD and must go. Course they try to hedge their statements by trying to say that some were out of context, that some statements were political statements and not meant to be believed, etc,etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: "I’m not seeking to “protect the President”, but instead am asking where the accountability is for the members of Congress and Presidential wannabes who were so inept, ignorant, and incompetent as to have made the same statements about the threat Saddam Hussein posed in 2002?"

Is that your alibi for George W. Bush?  That, since there was a Congressional authorization vote, the $11 billion in cash (170 pallet loads) that just dissapeared in Baghdad was just peachy?

It appears that all the comments, congressional votes and previous statements is the all-purpose alibi for George W. Bush's disengagement and refusal to step in and act as Donald Rumsfeld (Dick Cheney's "greatest Secretary of Defense in history") ran the occupation to the brink of ruin.

It's all just swell with you becuase "it's all Hillary Clinton's fault because she voted to authorize force".

The alibis for George W. Bush will never end, as Conservatives protect him from accountability forever.  Only "minor mistakes" were made, and no one is accountable because they fell from the sky.

Had a Democratic President presided over this level of incompetence, you would be demanding that he/she be hanging from a light pole.

But, since it is George W. Bush, it is only "too bad", and "lets talk about something else".

I repeat:  Conservatives are shielding George W. Bush by refusing to acknowl.edge the massive level of damage his blundreed occupation of Iraq has caused, regardless of the authorization.

Shame on Hillary Clinton for voting too much power to this incompetent.

But double shame on the man who IS that incompetent.

I will say that.

But no Conservative will say anything approaching that, because he/she must protect George W. Bush from TRUE accountability, no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;I’m not seeking to “protect the President”, but instead am asking where the accountability is for the members of Congress and Presidential wannabes who were so inept, ignorant, and incompetent as to have made the same statements about the threat Saddam Hussein posed in 2002?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that your alibi for George W. Bush?  That, since there was a Congressional authorization vote, the $11 billion in cash (170 pallet loads) that just dissapeared in Baghdad was just peachy?</p>
<p>It appears that all the comments, congressional votes and previous statements is the all-purpose alibi for George W. Bush&#8217;s disengagement and refusal to step in and act as Donald Rumsfeld (Dick Cheney&#8217;s &#8220;greatest Secretary of Defense in history&#8221;) ran the occupation to the brink of ruin.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all just swell with you becuase &#8220;it&#8217;s all Hillary Clinton&#8217;s fault because she voted to authorize force&#8221;.</p>
<p>The alibis for George W. Bush will never end, as Conservatives protect him from accountability forever.  Only &#8220;minor mistakes&#8221; were made, and no one is accountable because they fell from the sky.</p>
<p>Had a Democratic President presided over this level of incompetence, you would be demanding that he/she be hanging from a light pole.</p>
<p>But, since it is George W. Bush, it is only &#8220;too bad&#8221;, and &#8220;lets talk about something else&#8221;.</p>
<p>I repeat:  Conservatives are shielding George W. Bush by refusing to acknowl.edge the massive level of damage his blundreed occupation of Iraq has caused, regardless of the authorization.</p>
<p>Shame on Hillary Clinton for voting too much power to this incompetent.</p>
<p>But double shame on the man who IS that incompetent.</p>
<p>I will say that.</p>
<p>But no Conservative will say anything approaching that, because he/she must protect George W. Bush from TRUE accountability, no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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