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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12683</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, I don&#039;t watch Clinton News Network except on primary/debate nights as they have the best coverage.  I watch all over the web, and have learned to take anything and everything with a grain of salt.  Believe none of what you hear and maybe half of what you see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I don&#8217;t watch Clinton News Network except on primary/debate nights as they have the best coverage.  I watch all over the web, and have learned to take anything and everything with a grain of salt.  Believe none of what you hear and maybe half of what you see.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12594</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the way Fox has been reporting on the election I would have to agree.  It&#039;s almost surreal, Fox has been denigrated Fred every day while CNN actually seems to be giving him kudos.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the way Fox has been reporting on the election I would have to agree.  It&#8217;s almost surreal, Fox has been denigrated Fred every day while CNN actually seems to be giving him kudos&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: MariesTwoCents</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12593</link>
		<dc:creator>MariesTwoCents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still trying to get over an above poster (Faux News) ???

Sounds like you listen to CNN the Communist New Network!

Whatever, Fred isnt out till Fred says he&#039;s out :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still trying to get over an above poster (Faux News) ???</p>
<p>Sounds like you listen to CNN the Communist New Network!</p>
<p>Whatever, Fred isnt out till Fred says he&#8217;s out <img src='http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12584</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that update Melissa:

http://race42008.com/2008/01/21/fred-thompson-news/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that update Melissa:</p>
<p><a href="http://race42008.com/2008/01/21/fred-thompson-news/" rel="nofollow">http://race42008.com/2008/01/21/fred-thompson-news/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12579</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7 comments from you Michael in Michigan complaining about the content of my post.

In the time it took you to do all that, you could have written at least ONE substantive counter to what I have written.

But instead, you continue to complain about me...

Good Grief!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7 comments from you Michael in Michigan complaining about the content of my post.</p>
<p>In the time it took you to do all that, you could have written at least ONE substantive counter to what I have written.</p>
<p>But instead, you continue to complain about me&#8230;</p>
<p>Good Grief!</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://race42008.com/2008/01/21/fred-thompson-news/trackback/

Apparently his mother is in very bad shape, but he hasn&#039;t withdrawn from the debate on Thursday.  Still waiting on him. I hate waiting.</description>
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<p>Apparently his mother is in very bad shape, but he hasn&#8217;t withdrawn from the debate on Thursday.  Still waiting on him. I hate waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12573</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&quot;If you don’t like MY analysis, write your own!

You don’t even have to be “brilliant” to do it!&quot;&lt;/B&gt;

Geez, Mike you don&#039;t have to be such an a**hole, you know?  I came here asking I thought some relevant questions and all I get is shit from you.  Get over yourself.

Nice way of treating your readers and fellow republican voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;If you don’t like MY analysis, write your own!</p>
<p>You don’t even have to be “brilliant” to do it!&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Geez, Mike you don&#8217;t have to be such an a**hole, you know?  I came here asking I thought some relevant questions and all I get is shit from you.  Get over yourself.</p>
<p>Nice way of treating your readers and fellow republican voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12572</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&quot;...more than one third of self identified conservatives rejected the ISSUES put forward by Huckabee and McCain.”&lt;/B&gt;

I guess this is where we differ, Mike.  I read this and think to myself &lt;I&gt;&quot;WOW, 61% of conservatives are supporting the two biggest liberals in the GOP race?  What the hell is going on here?&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

But again, my next question is what kind of &#039;conservatives&#039; are they?  And what are their main issues.  If social conservatives, why are they supporting McCain when he has not been fully pro-life, when he went against the Wisconsin Right to Life?  If they are supporting Huckabee, don&#039;t they know about his taking money from embryonic stem cell groups?  If they are fiscal and are supporting them, don&#039;t they know about McCain&#039;s support of global warming which will have a HUGE affect on the economy.  Or if Huckabee, don&#039;t they know he is a big government tax raiser?

These are things I cannot address if all I get is &quot;conservatives voted...&quot;

Do you get what I&#039;m saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;&#8230;more than one third of self identified conservatives rejected the ISSUES put forward by Huckabee and McCain.”</b></p>
<p>I guess this is where we differ, Mike.  I read this and think to myself <i>&#8220;WOW, 61% of conservatives are supporting the two biggest liberals in the GOP race?  What the hell is going on here?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>But again, my next question is what kind of &#8216;conservatives&#8217; are they?  And what are their main issues.  If social conservatives, why are they supporting McCain when he has not been fully pro-life, when he went against the Wisconsin Right to Life?  If they are supporting Huckabee, don&#8217;t they know about his taking money from embryonic stem cell groups?  If they are fiscal and are supporting them, don&#8217;t they know about McCain&#8217;s support of global warming which will have a HUGE affect on the economy.  Or if Huckabee, don&#8217;t they know he is a big government tax raiser?</p>
<p>These are things I cannot address if all I get is &#8220;conservatives voted&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you get what I&#8217;m saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael:

&lt;b&gt; WHY... DO... YOU...THINK... I... GAVE... YOU... THE...LINK...TO....THE...EXIT....POLLS?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21228202/
&lt;/b&gt;

If you don&#039;t like MY analysis, write your own!

You don&#039;t even have to be &quot;brilliant&quot; to do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael:</p>
<p><b> WHY&#8230; DO&#8230; YOU&#8230;THINK&#8230; I&#8230; GAVE&#8230; YOU&#8230; THE&#8230;LINK&#8230;TO&#8230;.THE&#8230;EXIT&#8230;.POLLS?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21228202/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21228202/</a><br />
</b></p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like MY analysis, write your own!</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t even have to be &#8220;brilliant&#8221; to do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12570</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&quot;And frankly, I think it is a VERY important story that more than one third of self identified conservatives rejected the ISSUES put forward by Huckabee and McCain.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;

My point is when I see &quot;conservative&quot;, I have no clue what that means.  Fiscal?  Social?  Neo-cons?  Isolationists?  Ron Paul conservatives?  What does that tell me?  Nothing.

Now, if they said &quot;social conservatives voted...&quot; or &quot;fiscal conservatives voted...&quot;, then that would tell me something.

There are many people who call themselves conservative who are supporting Mike Huckabee or John McCain, even though they are both pretty much liberals.  So when I see that, I wonder, what makes them call themselves a conservative and see John McCain or Mike Huckabee as a conservative?  But, I don&#039;t get that answer, I get &quot;conservatives voted...&quot;  Brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;And frankly, I think it is a VERY important story that more than one third of self identified conservatives rejected the ISSUES put forward by Huckabee and McCain.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>My point is when I see &#8220;conservative&#8221;, I have no clue what that means.  Fiscal?  Social?  Neo-cons?  Isolationists?  Ron Paul conservatives?  What does that tell me?  Nothing.</p>
<p>Now, if they said &#8220;social conservatives voted&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;fiscal conservatives voted&#8230;&#8221;, then that would tell me something.</p>
<p>There are many people who call themselves conservative who are supporting Mike Huckabee or John McCain, even though they are both pretty much liberals.  So when I see that, I wonder, what makes them call themselves a conservative and see John McCain or Mike Huckabee as a conservative?  But, I don&#8217;t get that answer, I get &#8220;conservatives voted&#8230;&#8221;  Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12569</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with Melissa, but only because of the condition of Fred Thompson&#039;s mother.  Were she not ill, I would have wanted to see him campaign in FL and then work on any of the Super Tuesday states after that.  I don&#039;t see any reason for Fred Thompson to drop out until after Super Tuesday, if it comes to that.  There is no clear cut leader right now.

The mass media is propping up McCain and Huckabee and are trashing Rudy, Romney and Fred.  And they are ignoring Ron Paul.  (probably a good thing).  But I see no reason for any candidate to drop out until after Super Tuesday.  Those people deserve some choices.

And I wouldn&#039;t take the word of FAUX news for anything anymore.  They are quite the joke.  They have been trying to push Fred Thompson out of this race for quite a while now.  That said, the only reason I can see for Fred Thompson to skip the debate is to be at his mother&#039;s side.  I don&#039;t see it as a prelude to dropping out of the race.

But, we&#039;ll see what he has to say tomorrow.  He may just be setting everyone up again with the mass media expecting a speech about dropping out and he uses them to give another stump speech.  heh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Melissa, but only because of the condition of Fred Thompson&#8217;s mother.  Were she not ill, I would have wanted to see him campaign in FL and then work on any of the Super Tuesday states after that.  I don&#8217;t see any reason for Fred Thompson to drop out until after Super Tuesday, if it comes to that.  There is no clear cut leader right now.</p>
<p>The mass media is propping up McCain and Huckabee and are trashing Rudy, Romney and Fred.  And they are ignoring Ron Paul.  (probably a good thing).  But I see no reason for any candidate to drop out until after Super Tuesday.  Those people deserve some choices.</p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t take the word of FAUX news for anything anymore.  They are quite the joke.  They have been trying to push Fred Thompson out of this race for quite a while now.  That said, the only reason I can see for Fred Thompson to skip the debate is to be at his mother&#8217;s side.  I don&#8217;t see it as a prelude to dropping out of the race.</p>
<p>But, we&#8217;ll see what he has to say tomorrow.  He may just be setting everyone up again with the mass media expecting a speech about dropping out and he uses them to give another stump speech.  heh</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12568</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;That’s great, Mike. So why wasn’t that the topic of your post instead of the highlights&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Beeeeccccaaauuusssseeee&lt;/b&gt; Michael, that wasn&#039;t the point I wanted to make.

Don&#039;t make me repeat again how often I have gone toe to toe IN PERSON TO MANY OF THESE CANDIDATES on the issues that are important.

And frankly, I think it is a VERY important story that more than one third of self identified conservatives rejected the ISSUES put forward by Huckabee and McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;That’s great, Mike. So why wasn’t that the topic of your post instead of the highlights&#8221;</i></p>
<p><b>Beeeeccccaaauuusssseeee</b> Michael, that wasn&#8217;t the point I wanted to make.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make me repeat again how often I have gone toe to toe IN PERSON TO MANY OF THESE CANDIDATES on the issues that are important.</p>
<p>And frankly, I think it is a VERY important story that more than one third of self identified conservatives rejected the ISSUES put forward by Huckabee and McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12567</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, &quot;Candidate&#039;s position vs candidate&#039;s leadership/personality&quot; tells me jack squat too.

As I said, how about 35% of those whose #1 issue was immigration went to Huckabee.  40% of those whose #1 issue was taxes went to Romney.  etc etc

That is what matters to me.  All that other stuff is meaningless nonsense, as far as I am concerned.  Especially since I cannot do anything about it.  I CAN do something about finding out that people who want illegal immigration stopped are voting for John McCain.  That tells me they are not aware of his record.  So I can talk to them about that.

What am I supposed to say to someone who says &quot;ooh, I&#039;m voting for him because of his personality!&quot;  What is this, American Idol?

Issues, issues issues.  I want to see post-primary analysis on how people voted on the issues.  Don&#039;t you think that is most relevant?  &lt;B&gt;Shouldn&#039;t&lt;/B&gt; that be most relevant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, &#8220;Candidate&#8217;s position vs candidate&#8217;s leadership/personality&#8221; tells me jack squat too.</p>
<p>As I said, how about 35% of those whose #1 issue was immigration went to Huckabee.  40% of those whose #1 issue was taxes went to Romney.  etc etc</p>
<p>That is what matters to me.  All that other stuff is meaningless nonsense, as far as I am concerned.  Especially since I cannot do anything about it.  I CAN do something about finding out that people who want illegal immigration stopped are voting for John McCain.  That tells me they are not aware of his record.  So I can talk to them about that.</p>
<p>What am I supposed to say to someone who says &#8220;ooh, I&#8217;m voting for him because of his personality!&#8221;  What is this, American Idol?</p>
<p>Issues, issues issues.  I want to see post-primary analysis on how people voted on the issues.  Don&#8217;t you think that is most relevant?  <b>Shouldn&#8217;t</b> that be most relevant?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12565</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;If you look about two thirds down the exit polls I linked in my post:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21228202/

You’ll see what how voters ranked a series of issues and how it affected their vote.&lt;/B&gt;

That&#039;s great, Mike.  So why wasn&#039;t that the topic of your post instead of the highlights about how conservatives, those who attend church and liberals/independents voted?

I&#039;m not trying to be a little b*tch here.  But I see this post-primary voting analysis happen on pretty much every blog.  Instead of highlighting WHY people voted, the analysis is of WHO voted.  I don&#039;t care who voted and neither should anyone else.  What matters is the issues.

Again, I&#039;m just tired of seeing post-primary analysis focus on identity politics instead of issue politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>If you look about two thirds down the exit polls I linked in my post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21228202/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21228202/</a></p>
<p>You’ll see what how voters ranked a series of issues and how it affected their vote.</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s great, Mike.  So why wasn&#8217;t that the topic of your post instead of the highlights about how conservatives, those who attend church and liberals/independents voted?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be a little b*tch here.  But I see this post-primary voting analysis happen on pretty much every blog.  Instead of highlighting WHY people voted, the analysis is of WHO voted.  I don&#8217;t care who voted and neither should anyone else.  What matters is the issues.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m just tired of seeing post-primary analysis focus on identity politics instead of issue politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/21/freds-revenge/#comment-12561</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard anything about him not participating in the FL debates. Take that back FAUX news just said he&#039;s skipping the debate, take it with a grain of salt.  However he is in TN right now and hasn&#039;t left his mother&#039;s bedside.  She is in the hospital with pneumonia at age 90+  which may be the reason he has gone quiet.  Where would you be in this situation? 

The phone call is summed up as this, his mother is very ill.  He is at her side.  Send well wishes for her recovery to the Nashville Campaign Headquarters.

Send all  other inquiries and support emails for Fred to LLEVY@fred08.com and she will hand them to him in the morning.
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The donations widgets are all operational.  The red truck donation widget is operational and can be easily accessed on my blog since it has gone incognito on his blog. 

I personally think he should skip FL, let the others run themselves out of money by fighting in the uber expensive Fl media and turn his attention to the super Tuesday states instead.  He&#039;s already here in TN a super Tuesday state. Why not campaign from his own front porch?  

Fun trivia and answer: Guess where his famous red pick up is parked? (his mother&#039;s driveway)
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I see updates on his site on the 19th titled Thank You South Carolina and yesterday, the 21st, Video of Fred&#039;s Speech in South Carolina.

At any rate, I&#039;ll wait for official word from Fred, Bill Lacey, or Sean Hackbarth before I start fearing the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard anything about him not participating in the FL debates. Take that back FAUX news just said he&#8217;s skipping the debate, take it with a grain of salt.  However he is in TN right now and hasn&#8217;t left his mother&#8217;s bedside.  She is in the hospital with pneumonia at age 90+  which may be the reason he has gone quiet.  Where would you be in this situation? </p>
<p>The phone call is summed up as this, his mother is very ill.  He is at her side.  Send well wishes for her recovery to the Nashville Campaign Headquarters.</p>
<p>Send all  other inquiries and support emails for Fred to <a href="mailto:LLEVY@fred08.com">LLEVY@fred08.com</a> and she will hand them to him in the morning.<br />
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The donations widgets are all operational.  The red truck donation widget is operational and can be easily accessed on my blog since it has gone incognito on his blog. </p>
<p>I personally think he should skip FL, let the others run themselves out of money by fighting in the uber expensive Fl media and turn his attention to the super Tuesday states instead.  He&#8217;s already here in TN a super Tuesday state. Why not campaign from his own front porch?  </p>
<p>Fun trivia and answer: Guess where his famous red pick up is parked? (his mother&#8217;s driveway)<br />
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I see updates on his site on the 19th titled Thank You South Carolina and yesterday, the 21st, Video of Fred&#8217;s Speech in South Carolina.</p>
<p>At any rate, I&#8217;ll wait for official word from Fred, Bill Lacey, or Sean Hackbarth before I start fearing the worst.</p>
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