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		<title>By: Hang Lawyers</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-40555</link>
		<dc:creator>Hang Lawyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn&#039;t a  lower life form on earth than POS lawyers. Google the following phrase &quot;why crooked lawyers go free&quot; and learn the facts about human bacteria, aka the legal profession.........&quot;a grievance system that moves in secret, then ends up discipling a minuscule percent of those whose conduct is questioned, can be neither effective or credible&quot;.  Classic fox guarding the chicken coop.  LAWYERS ARE SCUM !!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t a  lower life form on earth than POS lawyers. Google the following phrase &#8220;why crooked lawyers go free&#8221; and learn the facts about human bacteria, aka the legal profession&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;a grievance system that moves in secret, then ends up discipling a minuscule percent of those whose conduct is questioned, can be neither effective or credible&#8221;.  Classic fox guarding the chicken coop.  LAWYERS ARE SCUM !!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Military Hating Lawyer Keys Marines Car, Update</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-11567</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Military Hating Lawyer Keys Marines Car, Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bit of an update on the scumbag lawyer, Jay R. Grodner, who keyed a Marines car from John Kass: Lawyer Jay R. Grodner, 55, is set to appear in court next week to answer the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bit of an update on the scumbag lawyer, Jay R. Grodner, who keyed a Marines car from John Kass: Lawyer Jay R. Grodner, 55, is set to appear in court next week to answer the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10749</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the bad thing is his life mirrors another well known scum bag Fred phelps well except he hasnt attended a siminary yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the bad thing is his life mirrors another well known scum bag Fred phelps well except he hasnt attended a siminary yet</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Hockett</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10161</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Hockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the Marine Corps. You know what they say...&quot;Once a Marine, ALWAYS a Marine!!&quot; I&#039;m incensed!!! It wouldn&#039;t matter to me if this idiot did this to any member of the military...I would be fuming just as much!! And his stature doesn&#039;t make him small...his character makes him small!!! He is a character...he has no character!! And the very freedom he has to operate his business as a lawyer is given to him by the people who have served, are serving, and who have died for this country!!! If he was in Israel, he would sing a different tune...every man who reaches 18 spends at least 2 years in the Israeli Army, and I believe the women do too. He should feel blessed he has the freedom to refuse to serve! Unbelievable!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the Marine Corps. You know what they say&#8230;&#8221;Once a Marine, ALWAYS a Marine!!&#8221; I&#8217;m incensed!!! It wouldn&#8217;t matter to me if this idiot did this to any member of the military&#8230;I would be fuming just as much!! And his stature doesn&#8217;t make him small&#8230;his character makes him small!!! He is a character&#8230;he has no character!! And the very freedom he has to operate his business as a lawyer is given to him by the people who have served, are serving, and who have died for this country!!! If he was in Israel, he would sing a different tune&#8230;every man who reaches 18 spends at least 2 years in the Israeli Army, and I believe the women do too. He should feel blessed he has the freedom to refuse to serve! Unbelievable!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10160</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the Mother of an Army Sergeant who is being deployed to Iraq in March I am saddened that my son will be fighting so this total cretin can commit felonies against military men. I would be willing to bet he never served in the military....at 5&#039; 6&quot; he wouldnt be much good, and he has a nerve calling anyone else small (I dont want to get crude but my guess he is &quot;small&quot; too if you know what I mean) What a pathetic individual, my guess is he is an unethical lawyer too. His mother should be ashamed she raised a son who is definitely not a &quot;mensch&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the Mother of an Army Sergeant who is being deployed to Iraq in March I am saddened that my son will be fighting so this total cretin can commit felonies against military men. I would be willing to bet he never served in the military&#8230;.at 5&#8242; 6&#8243; he wouldnt be much good, and he has a nerve calling anyone else small (I dont want to get crude but my guess he is &#8220;small&#8221; too if you know what I mean) What a pathetic individual, my guess is he is an unethical lawyer too. His mother should be ashamed she raised a son who is definitely not a &#8220;mensch&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10159</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical lawyer. Hiding behind his knowledge of the system. I would take a lot of pleasure in seeing this scumbag get a little dose of humble pie. He&#039;s lucky the Marine didn&#039;t beat his ass on the spot (which I probably would have done), although I&#039;m positive he would have sued for a hefty, jackpot settlement (back to the lawyer thing).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical lawyer. Hiding behind his knowledge of the system. I would take a lot of pleasure in seeing this scumbag get a little dose of humble pie. He&#8217;s lucky the Marine didn&#8217;t beat his ass on the spot (which I probably would have done), although I&#8217;m positive he would have sued for a hefty, jackpot settlement (back to the lawyer thing).</p>
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		<title>By: VerityINK</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10158</link>
		<dc:creator>VerityINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s going up shortly at my blog also--I&#039;m at The DU d&#039;Rat Review.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s going up shortly at my blog also&#8211;I&#8217;m at The DU d&#8217;Rat Review.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10157</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts also, Mike.  But it seems that fighting and dying for your country (and the assholes that key your car) does not put these brave men and women in the category protected by hate crimes laws.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts also, Mike.  But it seems that fighting and dying for your country (and the assholes that key your car) does not put these brave men and women in the category protected by hate crimes laws.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10156</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t this be considered a hate crime?
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		<title>By: defendusa</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10155</link>
		<dc:creator>defendusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s on my blog as well. Http://neestake.twonhall.com/default.aspx
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s on my blog as well. <a href="Http://neestake.twonhall.com/default.aspx" title="Http://neestake.twonhall.com/default.aspx" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">neestake.twonhall.com&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10154</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Made it on boortz.com and his nation wide radio show The Boortz Show.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made it on <a href="http://boortz.com" title="http://boortz.com" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">boortz.com&#8230;</a> and his nation wide radio show The Boortz Show.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10153</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all you help in this matter and helping this Marine out.
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		<title>By: John P</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10152</link>
		<dc:creator>John P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Moore has nothing to do with this, so I don&#039;t understand why he&#039;s mentioned.
A more interesting question: why the total silence from the Chicago media? It&#039;s been in the blogosphere for 2 days and you know they are aware of it. Can you IMAGINE the hell the Tribune and Sun Times would be raising if a vet or GI had damaged a vehicle festooned with anti-war, anti-military stickers?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Moore has nothing to do with this, so I don&#8217;t understand why he&#8217;s mentioned.<br />
A more interesting question: why the total silence from the Chicago media? It&#8217;s been in the blogosphere for 2 days and you know they are aware of it. Can you IMAGINE the hell the Tribune and Sun Times would be raising if a vet or GI had damaged a vehicle festooned with anti-war, anti-military stickers?</p>
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		<title>By: jainphx</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10151</link>
		<dc:creator>jainphx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lawyer in Chicago, Dishonest, no can&#039;t be. Stall so that  justice cannot function. No way!
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/military-hating-lawyer-keys-ma/#comment-10150</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Curt.  And it is great to see this get so much attention in such a short period of time.  Even InstaPundit linked it.

Another interesting post I found in my trackbacks was this one at MorseHellHole:  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://morsehellhole.blogspot.com/2007/12/rogers-park-lawyer-goes-up-against.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;* Rogers Park Lawyer Goes Up Against Military Man (And Bloggers)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Interesting that this happened in a district that has an anti-military Alderman.

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&lt;b&gt;Blognotes&lt;/b&gt;: One of our Anti-war Alderman&#039;s constituents damages a military man&#039;s vehicle. This should really be interesting. Jay Grodner, living in a ward under the control of Joe Moore, a known anti-military politician, defaces a military mans vehicle. Is this what all military personal can expect when venturing into Joe Moore country? Has Joe Moore created a hate in Rogers Park towards military personal?
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Also, I liked this guy&#039;s response to someone who was trying to say this was BS and that Blackfive was a &quot;propaganda&quot; site:

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While I do want to hear both sides, we do have a keyed car, a police report and an apparent dispute, sufficient for a hearing.

Alleged offending party is an attorney whose legal violations started about a month after he passed the bar (which is typical for IL, but I digress).

In response to the publicity, instead of posting a position on his site, or issuing any press release, he&#039;s simply SHUT DOWN HIS SITE and DISCONNECTED ALL HIS NUMBERS. That&#039;s costing him a lot of business.

And as someone who&#039;s been in the &quot;news&quot; and in assorted locations to be part of stories about the military firsthand (meaning I was there, on duty, when a reporter or his paid lackey showed up), Black Five is far less a &quot;propaganda organ&quot; than say, the professional lying $#!+bags at CNN, ABC, SeeBS or AP.

It doesn&#039;t affect me directly yet, so I&#039;m waiting to see.

But I hardly think some Marine keyed his own car, identified an innocent civilian as a perp and started all this just for fun or sympathy.
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There is also this about Alderman Joe Moore:  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOZO0y9JgI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOZO0y9JgI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOZO0y9JgI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Curt.  And it is great to see this get so much attention in such a short period of time.  Even InstaPundit linked it.</p>
<p>Another interesting post I found in my trackbacks was this one at MorseHellHole:  <b><a href="http://morsehellhole.blogspot.com/2007/12/rogers-park-lawyer-goes-up-against.html" rel="nofollow">* Rogers Park Lawyer Goes Up Against Military Man (And Bloggers)</a></b></p>
<p>Interesting that this happened in a district that has an anti-military Alderman.</p>
<p>*****<br />
<b>Blognotes</b>: One of our Anti-war Alderman&#8217;s constituents damages a military man&#8217;s vehicle. This should really be interesting. Jay Grodner, living in a ward under the control of Joe Moore, a known anti-military politician, defaces a military mans vehicle. Is this what all military personal can expect when venturing into Joe Moore country? Has Joe Moore created a hate in Rogers Park towards military personal?<br />
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<p>Also, I liked this guy&#8217;s response to someone who was trying to say this was BS and that Blackfive was a &#8220;propaganda&#8221; site:</p>
<p>*****<br />
While I do want to hear both sides, we do have a keyed car, a police report and an apparent dispute, sufficient for a hearing.</p>
<p>Alleged offending party is an attorney whose legal violations started about a month after he passed the bar (which is typical for IL, but I digress).</p>
<p>In response to the publicity, instead of posting a position on his site, or issuing any press release, he&#8217;s simply SHUT DOWN HIS SITE and DISCONNECTED ALL HIS NUMBERS. That&#8217;s costing him a lot of business.</p>
<p>And as someone who&#8217;s been in the &#8220;news&#8221; and in assorted locations to be part of stories about the military firsthand (meaning I was there, on duty, when a reporter or his paid lackey showed up), Black Five is far less a &#8220;propaganda organ&#8221; than say, the professional lying $#!+bags at CNN, ABC, SeeBS or AP.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t affect me directly yet, so I&#8217;m waiting to see.</p>
<p>But I hardly think some Marine keyed his own car, identified an innocent civilian as a perp and started all this just for fun or sympathy.<br />
*****</p>
<p>There is also this about Alderman Joe Moore:  <b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOZO0y9JgI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOZO0y9JgI</a></b></p>
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