And trashing the idiot caller at about the 8 minute mark was choice.

How sad it is that the defeatists, the appeasers, the Ron Paul acolytes and the Bush haters would rather wring their hands over waterboarding Abu Zubaydah.

The bottom line here is that Thousands of lives were saved because we waterboarded Zubaydan.

I’d like the handwringers who think what we did was so awful to visit the Library Tower in L.A. and personally tell the occupants how the United States would be better off if THEY WERE DEAD!

President Bush made it very clear that without waterboarding, we would never have learned about this attack and THOSE AMERICANS WOULD BE DEAD:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060906-3.html

Within months of September the 11th, 2001, we captured a man known as Abu Zubaydah. We believe that Zubaydah was a senior terrorist leader and a trusted associate of Osama bin Laden. Our intelligence community believes he had run a terrorist camp in Afghanistan where some of the 9/11 hijackers trained, and that he helped smuggle al Qaeda leaders out of Afghanistan after coalition forces arrived to liberate that country. Zubaydah was severely wounded during the firefight that brought him into custody — and he survived only because of the medical care arranged by the CIA.
After he recovered, Zubaydah was defiant and evasive. He declared his hatred of America. During questioning, he at first disclosed what he thought was nominal information — and then stopped all cooperation. Well, in fact, the “nominal” information he gave us turned out to be quite important. For example, Zubaydah disclosed Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — or KSM — was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks, and used the alias “Muktar.” This was a vital piece of the puzzle that helped our intelligence community pursue KSM. Abu Zubaydah also provided information that helped stop a terrorist attack being planned for inside the United States — an attack about which we had no previous information. Zubaydah told us that al Qaeda operatives were planning to launch an attack in the U.S., and provided physical descriptions of the operatives and information on their general location. Based on the information he provided, the operatives were detained — one while traveling to the United States.
We knew that Zubaydah had more information that could save innocent lives, but he stopped talking. As his questioning proceeded, it became clear that he had received training on how to resist interrogation. And so the CIA used an alternative set of procedures. These procedures were designed to be safe, to comply with our laws, our Constitution, and our treaty obligations. The Department of Justice reviewed the authorized methods extensively and determined them to be lawful. I cannot describe the specific methods used — I think you understand why — if I did, it would help the terrorists learn how to resist questioning, and to keep information from us that we need to prevent new attacks on our country. But I can say the procedures were tough, and they were safe, and lawful, and necessary.
Zubaydah was questioned using these procedures, and soon he began to provide information on key al Qaeda operatives, including information that helped us find and capture more of those responsible for the attacks on September the 11th. For example, Zubaydah identified one of KSM’s accomplices in the 9/11 attacks — a terrorist named Ramzi bin al Shibh. The information Zubaydah provided helped lead to the capture of bin al Shibh. And together these two terrorists provided information that helped in the planning and execution of the operation that captured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Before I respond to one more handwringing ninny over whether these tapes should have been destroyed, or whether waterboarding is torture I demand they answer this question: Without using waterboarding in this case thousands of Americans WOULD BE DEAD. Are you prepared to accept responsibility for that?

No, ifs, ands or buts allowed.

Tapes, NIE, yada yada yada

What does anyone expect this to accomplish? Oh NO! I hope the President’s approval rating doesn’t drop (LOL!/care) Maybe we can impeach Bush and Cheney and put Nancy Pelosi in there-yeah, that’d be a great idea. She’s actually managed to fubar 2 houses of Congress while running only 1, her approval is at best half of the President’s, and all that’d do is completely kill the DNC’s chances in 08 while stalling the entire government and not just The Hill.

Tapes…care. Release em and all it is, is more anti-American fodder to fuel the enemy’s fire (politcal enemies of the nation’s war on terror, and terrorist enemies). Why save em? Who cares?

NIE? BFG. The Bush Admin could say Iran has nukes, here’s the pictures, audio, video, chem traces, and testimony, and it’d be moot. An NIE could come out saying Saddam had moved his WMD and destroyed most of it in the 17-month rush to war, and it’d be moot. Why? Because no one believes the intel community right now unless it’s politically supportive of their beliefs.

All this crap really is, is the msm desperately trying to avoid the realities of the gwot by distracting from real threats, diminishing them rhetorically as was done pre-911 (see also African Embassy bombings, Millenium Plot, USS Cole, pre-Bush claims of AQ ties to Saddam, and more).

It’s also a distraction from Iraq. Anyone notice how as soon as violence dropped, and claims of success there increased, coverage dropped? Troops are withdrawing? The order’s been given for 3 months now, and more are expected to withdraw continuously for the next year? Wow, better talk about ANYTHING other than that! Right?

Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of the 08 campaign!