Comments on: The Whacked-Winged Paulitician http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:52:41 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: The Baltimore Reporter http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-145038 The Baltimore Reporter Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:17:40 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-145038 [...] from a post targeted at Paul Bearers: In an interview with Hugh Hewitt, Robert Kaplan says, people have this image of the U.S. military [...] [...] from a post targeted at Paul Bearers: In an interview with Hugh Hewitt, Robert Kaplan says, people have this image of the U.S. military [...]

]]> By: Raphael http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-14406 Raphael Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:01:52 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-14406 The FT article by Robert Kagan is interesting. It basically says: Americans do pursue their selfish interests and ambitions, sometimes brutally - even hypocritical, but never mind: Stay the course! The FT article by Robert Kagan is interesting. It basically says: Americans do pursue their selfish interests and ambitions, sometimes brutally – even hypocritical, but never mind: Stay the course!

]]> By: MariesTwoCents http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9077 MariesTwoCents Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:54:41 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9077 Word, They are hip to us lol They look at us everyday and they seem to know when we are truly mad about Ron Paul or just trying to drag them out for a discussion. They dont want a discussion like the above normal Ron Paul supporter, they have decided when we are really upset, they seem to post to support the guy. But they dont realize we WANT to know where these people are coming from so we can examine all the candidates and make an informed decision. Sounded good anyway :-) Word,

They are hip to us lol

They look at us everyday and they seem to know when we are truly mad about Ron Paul or just trying to drag them out for a discussion.

They dont want a discussion like the above normal Ron Paul supporter, they have decided when we are really upset, they seem to post to support the guy.

But they dont realize we WANT to know where these people are coming from so we can examine all the candidates and make an informed decision.

Sounded good anyway :-)

]]> By: Weael Zipper http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9075 Weael Zipper Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:37:49 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9075 "even the reasonable Ron Paul supporters out there" Reminds me of the elusive Big Foot. If you come across one let me know. ;-) “even the reasonable Ron Paul supporters out there”

Reminds me of the elusive Big Foot. If you come across one let me know.
;-)

]]> By: wordsmith http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9076 wordsmith Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:02:12 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9076 <blockquote>I'm surprised my fellow Paul supporters haven't showed up. I think your post falls victim to the rule where good posts get few comments: post a complete and well-reasoned post, no one wants to argue, no on comments. Post something obviously half-assed and half a dozen people jump in to tell you how stupid you are...</blockquote> Hmmm...I wrote in the introduction that there was something here for everyone. I even threw in some childish nicknames- "Paul Pots"- "Paul Reverists" to bring 'em out. Not just substance. Maybe the post just looks too long to read? I blockquoted like crazy!

I’m surprised my fellow Paul supporters haven’t showed up. I think your post falls victim to the rule where good posts get few comments: post a complete and well-reasoned post, no one wants to argue, no on comments. Post something obviously half-assed and half a dozen people jump in to tell you how stupid you are…

Hmmm…I wrote in the introduction that there was something here for everyone. I even threw in some childish nicknames- “Paul Pots”- “Paul Reverists” to bring ‘em out. Not just substance.

Maybe the post just looks too long to read? I blockquoted like crazy!

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9074 Mike's America Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:44:18 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9074 Yes, let's get back to the heart of the matter: <b> Ron Paul SUCKS! Ron Paul SUCKS! Ron Paul SUCKS! Ron Paul SUCKS!</b> Yes, let’s get back to the heart of the matter:

Ron Paul SUCKS!

Ron Paul SUCKS!

Ron Paul SUCKS!

Ron Paul SUCKS!

]]> By: bbartlog http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9073 bbartlog Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:23:20 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9073 It's not deliberate on their part. It's probably an artifact of Paul getting a huge chunk of his funds (over 80%) online, where it's easy to fill in the employer and people are used to fields being mandatory. It’s not deliberate on their part. It’s probably an artifact of Paul getting a huge chunk of his funds (over 80%) online, where it’s easy to fill in the employer and people are used to fields being mandatory.

]]> By: Curt http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9072 Curt Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:16:19 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9072 Actually I think your onto something there BB. A RP supporter even left a compliment on the DIGG link. A short "RP sucks" type post that I usually do will get a ton of comments but a excellent post like this one is overlooked. People are finding the post via the technorati and google searches, I see that in the statcounter, but no one is jumping into the comments. Curious. As far as the donations, the whole thing is kinda silly to me. Its obvious looking at the numbers that the RP crowd has made it a point to get people to put down what their employment is seeing as how every other candidate has millions that were given with no employer stated. Actually I think your onto something there BB. A RP supporter even left a compliment on the DIGG link. A short “RP sucks” type post that I usually do will get a ton of comments but a excellent post like this one is overlooked. People are finding the post via the technorati and google searches, I see that in the statcounter, but no one is jumping into the comments. Curious.

As far as the donations, the whole thing is kinda silly to me. Its obvious looking at the numbers that the RP crowd has made it a point to get people to put down what their employment is seeing as how every other candidate has millions that were given with no employer stated.

]]> By: bbartlog http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9071 bbartlog Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:04:07 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9071 One other very minor thing: you say that Paul's FEC filings show only $100 of contributions from donors who didn't list an employer. The filings from Paul show the value 'Requested' for these donors (to indicate that the campaign did request this information). Unsurprisingly the total there is a lot larger, though not large enough to invalidate your argument. More generally, the FEC filings are a mess. When I eyeballed a couple of the files I identified at least fourteen different ways people specified the military as an employer. At some point I may revisit them to see what sort of totals I come up with. One other very minor thing: you say that Paul’s FEC filings show only $100 of contributions from donors who didn’t list an employer. The filings from Paul show the value ‘Requested’ for these donors (to indicate that the campaign did request this information). Unsurprisingly the total there is a lot larger, though not large enough to invalidate your argument.
More generally, the FEC filings are a mess. When I eyeballed a couple of the files I identified at least fourteen different ways people specified the military as an employer. At some point I may revisit them to see what sort of totals I come up with.

]]> By: MariesTwoCents http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9070 MariesTwoCents Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:58:35 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9070 Oh PLEASE!!! Ron Paul? There is no reasoning for this crackpot! Yes I think he's insane and he proves it every time he opens his mouth. He should just drop out now before he is tossed out on his ass from Congress as well as any Presidential election!! Oh PLEASE!!!

Ron Paul?

There is no reasoning for this crackpot!

Yes I think he’s insane and he proves it every time he opens his mouth.

He should just drop out now before he is tossed out on his ass from Congress as well as any Presidential election!!

]]> By: bbartlog http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9069 bbartlog Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:44:27 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9069 Ron Paul hasn't changed much. If you think he's crazy now, he was probably always crazy. Or else your perceptions have changed. I'm surprised my fellow Paul supporters haven't showed up. I think your post falls victim to the rule where good posts get few comments: post a complete and well-reasoned post, no one wants to argue, no on comments. Post something obviously half-assed and half a dozen people jump in to tell you how stupid you are... Ron Paul hasn’t changed much. If you think he’s crazy now, he was probably always crazy. Or else your perceptions have changed.

I’m surprised my fellow Paul supporters haven’t showed up. I think your post falls victim to the rule where good posts get few comments: post a complete and well-reasoned post, no one wants to argue, no on comments. Post something obviously half-assed and half a dozen people jump in to tell you how stupid you are…

]]> By: jainphx http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9068 jainphx Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:59:22 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9068 Ron Paul-I remember when he was sane. Ron Paul-I remember when he was sane.

]]> By: Curt http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9067 Curt Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:34:05 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9067 BB is actually one of the most commonsensical RP fans I've run across. While I disagree with him on some things he can concede when RP is wrong, something lacking with most of RP's fans. I agree there is a isolationist fan in every camp, but as Word posed in his post it's a belief based in fantasy. As for Vietnam, whether we should of gone into Vietnam or not can be argued for eons. At the time Communism was a real threat and you cannot look at the present here and now to make a decision on whether a past generation should of gone in or not. As for the outcome...we went into Vietnam and made a committment to the Vietnamese that we would stay and win, and we were winning as Tet most definitely demonstrated. But the MSM and the politicians spun it another way, as they have with Iraq, and forced us to back out on our promises and committment. That is unforgivable in my book. McCain specifically said "after we left" they wanted to build their own workers paradise. He didn't say that was the argument at the time. The domino theory was most definitely happening across the planet, and has been happening across the middle east for decades when it comes to fanatical Islam. We also disagree completely on the threat fanatical Islam poses. So other then that we agree.....lol But as always BB, good comment. BB is actually one of the most commonsensical RP fans I’ve run across. While I disagree with him on some things he can concede when RP is wrong, something lacking with most of RP’s fans.

I agree there is a isolationist fan in every camp, but as Word posed in his post it’s a belief based in fantasy.

As for Vietnam, whether we should of gone into Vietnam or not can be argued for eons. At the time Communism was a real threat and you cannot look at the present here and now to make a decision on whether a past generation should of gone in or not. As for the outcome…we went into Vietnam and made a committment to the Vietnamese that we would stay and win, and we were winning as Tet most definitely demonstrated. But the MSM and the politicians spun it another way, as they have with Iraq, and forced us to back out on our promises and committment. That is unforgivable in my book.

McCain specifically said “after we left” they wanted to build their own workers paradise. He didn’t say that was the argument at the time. The domino theory was most definitely happening across the planet, and has been happening across the middle east for decades when it comes to fanatical Islam.

We also disagree completely on the threat fanatical Islam poses.

So other then that we agree…..lol

But as always BB, good comment.

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9066 Mike's America Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:49:20 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9066 Yeah, I'll just finish my Lemon Chicken and wait for the deluge of delusional moonbattery before I comment. Bbartlog has clearly walked back from the brink of idiocy and as such is much less fun to play with. Yeah, I’ll just finish my Lemon Chicken and wait for the deluge of delusional moonbattery before I comment.

Bbartlog has clearly walked back from the brink of idiocy and as such is much less fun to play with.

]]> By: wordsmith http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9065 wordsmith Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:23 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/30/the-whacked-winged-paulitician/#comment-9065 bbartlog, Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I was actually waiting with the stopwatch for the Paulmites to crawl out of the woodworks; but all I got was you, the more reasoned of the Paul supporters, and I suppose turning into a regular reader here. Good comment. I might come back later to comment on your comment; but for now, I'm going to just sit back, relax, sip a latte, and see what happens here. bbartlog,

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I was actually waiting with the stopwatch for the Paulmites to crawl out of the woodworks; but all I got was you, the more reasoned of the Paul supporters, and I suppose turning into a regular reader here.

Good comment. I might come back later to comment on your comment; but for now, I’m going to just sit back, relax, sip a latte, and see what happens here.

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