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	<title>Comments on: To Waterboard Or Not To Waterboard?</title>
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		<title>By: thebronze</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DemocRats/Liberals are traitors.
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		<title>By: JustADude</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; Curt This is a cut and paste of a comment about Nance &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/10/waterboarding_is_torture/#comment-207550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;from here&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Take it with a big grain of salt since I don&#039;t have a clue who the commenter is but just putting it out there for consideration that is NOT IN ANY WAY VERIFIED
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&lt;p&gt;In case anyone is still reading the comments, here are a few points regarding Malcolm:
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&lt;p&gt;* He was a Cryptologic Technician (Interpretive) in the Navy. We operated radios, mostly on ships, submarines and airplanes. Our job was mostly tedium, so some of us like to turn it into an adrenaline-pumping action adventure in our sea stories.
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&lt;p&gt;* None my friends and colleagues who were in Beirut on October 23, 1983, can remember Malcolm&#039;s presence in the aftermath of the Marine barracks attack. If he was there, he maintained what was a startlingly low profile for Malcolm.
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&lt;p&gt;* Malcolm was an instructor at the Navy Technical Training Center Detachment at Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo, TX, which is where he earned his Master Training Specialist designation. It had nothing to do with his assignment at SERE School.
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&lt;p&gt;* Malcolm was assigned to SERE School as an instructor to get him out of the way of the mainstream of the Navy&#039;s Cryptologic community, due to some run-ins he&#039;d had with influential people. CTs only get assigned duties outside of the community when they&#039;ve lost their clearance or really pissed someone off. CTs have Top Secret SCI clearances; they don&#039;t get sent to mainstream Navy schools as instructors (thereby wasting their clearances) unless there&#039;s a problem somewhere. It certainly wasn&#039;t because Malcolm was some whiz-bang SEAL counter-terrorism expert.
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&lt;p&gt;* I went through SERE school at least a decade before Malcolm was a SERE instructor, but during my class, there wasn&#039;t anything approaching the severity of his description of waterboarding. Yes, there were many very unpleasant experiences there, but nothing that came anywhere close to being properly called &quot;torture.&quot;
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&lt;p&gt;* Malcolm bases some of his claims on &quot;classified&quot; information. The last time I checked, revealing classified information is against the law (unless you&#039;re a politician, of course). Regardless of the legalities, I have a hard time understanding how a person of honor and integrity can reveal information that he has sworn to keep secret.
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&lt;p&gt;Malcolm has always been a superior writer. Likewise, he&#039;s had an uncanny ability to step into the proverbial pile of shit and come out smelling like a rose. Those of us who know him best don&#039;t trust anything he says or writes. Take his books and articles with a pillar of salt.
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Posted by &lt;a href=&quot;http://texasnative.com/weblog/blogger.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boyd&lt;/a&gt; &#124; October 30, 2007 &#124; 08:51 am &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/10/waterboarding_is_torture/#comment-207550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Permalink&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Curt This is a cut and paste of a comment about Nance <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/10/waterboarding_is_torture/#comment-207550" rel="nofollow">from here</a>
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<p>Take it with a big grain of salt since I don&#8217;t have a clue who the commenter is but just putting it out there for consideration that is NOT IN ANY WAY VERIFIED
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<p>In case anyone is still reading the comments, here are a few points regarding Malcolm:
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<p>* He was a Cryptologic Technician (Interpretive) in the Navy. We operated radios, mostly on ships, submarines and airplanes. Our job was mostly tedium, so some of us like to turn it into an adrenaline-pumping action adventure in our sea stories.
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<p>* None my friends and colleagues who were in Beirut on October 23, 1983, can remember Malcolm&#8217;s presence in the aftermath of the Marine barracks attack. If he was there, he maintained what was a startlingly low profile for Malcolm.
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<p>* Malcolm was an instructor at the Navy Technical Training Center Detachment at Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo, TX, which is where he earned his Master Training Specialist designation. It had nothing to do with his assignment at SERE School.
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<p>* Malcolm was assigned to SERE School as an instructor to get him out of the way of the mainstream of the Navy&#8217;s Cryptologic community, due to some run-ins he&#8217;d had with influential people. CTs only get assigned duties outside of the community when they&#8217;ve lost their clearance or really pissed someone off. CTs have Top Secret SCI clearances; they don&#8217;t get sent to mainstream Navy schools as instructors (thereby wasting their clearances) unless there&#8217;s a problem somewhere. It certainly wasn&#8217;t because Malcolm was some whiz-bang SEAL counter-terrorism expert.
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<p>* I went through SERE school at least a decade before Malcolm was a SERE instructor, but during my class, there wasn&#8217;t anything approaching the severity of his description of waterboarding. Yes, there were many very unpleasant experiences there, but nothing that came anywhere close to being properly called &#8220;torture.&#8221;
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<p>* Malcolm bases some of his claims on &#8220;classified&#8221; information. The last time I checked, revealing classified information is against the law (unless you&#8217;re a politician, of course). Regardless of the legalities, I have a hard time understanding how a person of honor and integrity can reveal information that he has sworn to keep secret.
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<p>Malcolm has always been a superior writer. Likewise, he&#8217;s had an uncanny ability to step into the proverbial pile of shit and come out smelling like a rose. Those of us who know him best don&#8217;t trust anything he says or writes. Take his books and articles with a pillar of salt.
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<p>Posted by <a href="http://texasnative.com/weblog/blogger.html" rel="nofollow">Boyd</a> | October 30, 2007 | 08:51 am | <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/10/waterboarding_is_torture/#comment-207550" rel="nofollow">Permalink</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thinkin'bout Stuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinkin'bout Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Waterboarding&lt;/strong&gt;

I had read, with some skepticism, Malcolm Nance&#8217;s assertion that waterboarding is torture:
I have personally led, witnessed and supervised waterboarding of hundreds of people. It has been reported that both the Army and Navy SERE school&#8217;s i...
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<p>I had read, with some skepticism, Malcolm Nance&#8217;s assertion that waterboarding is torture:<br />
I have personally led, witnessed and supervised waterboarding of hundreds of people. It has been reported that both the Army and Navy SERE school&#8217;s i&#8230;</p>
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