Did You Hear Ron Paul Got Some Money Today?

this so called “article” is rubbish. Ron Paul only represents everything that the people want:

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

Lookie lookie, a Paulbot insulted me! Awwwwww, poor widdle baby.

Actually if you had learned to read you would have seen the quotes were from the Paulbots very own braintrust. You should probably keep playing with the kiddies over there, wouldn’t want you to get hurt playing with the big boys would we.

Curt, are you calling yourself a “poor widdle baby”? Its really hard to tell what you meant anyways.. (although I doubt it was worth the effort). cheers

Curt: it’s certainly your right to be as catty as you feel in writing about candidates you don’t support. It’s unseemly, but only human, to ridicule what you don’t understand or believe.

The vast majority of bloggers, who establish a conventional wisdom through their daily tirades, simply cannot comprehend that Ron Paul could receive the grassroots support of everyday conservatives.

So they snark that he attracts loonies and racists, and in saying that, they hope to dismiss him entirely.

It’s unfortunate for them that every demonstration of Ron Paul’s ever-growing support only diminishes that conventional wisdom.

It would perhaps be better for you to adopt the (former) Red State policy of not allowing _any_ discussion of Ron Paul.

38000 individual donors is about right. I think the average donation was a little over $100, since the total ended up at $4 million (or a little more if you count donations done before midnight Pacific Time).
As for the ‘claiming a conspiracy’ angle, you gotta post about something *bad* happening to the campaign before I can put on my tinfoil hat. How can I make up a conspiracy when something good happens? I mean, that’s a stretch even for me.

Yawn, paulbots.

Truly, they bore me today.

This little $4mill gig proves one thing: people will throw away money on anything.

These might be of interest, Curt (or not):

Ron Paul and Guy Fawkes

Remember, remember the fifth of November.

Great…tying Ron Paul to ” ‘V’ for Vendetta”.

Cash in the trash? Well, maybe. But depending how you look at it, the vast majority of political donations are going to be wasted. Only one candidate can win in the end, after all.
As far as pointlessness, I think one goal of Paul’s campaign has always been to keep a certain strain of Republicanism alive and kicking (paleoconservatism, more or less). And he’s already done a pretty good job on that, regardless of the outcome in the primaries.
Speaking for myself, I’m not as interested in his chances as I am in doing my best to fight for what I believe in.
Will I see the error in my ways? What would losing an election have to do with that? If Hillary beats the Republican nominee next year, does that mean you’re going to ‘see the error of your ways’? No, it just means we lost an election. You can be right and still lose.

bbart: Ron Paul is not a Republican. He is a LIBERTARIAN. The only reason he runs as a Republican is that people would take him even less seriuosly than they already do if he were a Libertarian.

And as far as Paleoconservatism goes: It’s a LOSER all the way around. It has nothing to do with a viable conservative movement.

I’ll follow the lead of my conservative mentors Reagan, Buckley, Goldwater, Ashbrook, Schlafly etc. any day over some Neanderthal know-nothing paleo nobody.

Since there was never a Jamil Hussein to find I think my job is done. The AP was proven to have used a stringer with a pseudonym….job done. But I tell you what, you go find that evil banking conglomerate and I’ll keep looking for Jamil. While your at it, go find the passengers on those flights that never really hit the WTC.

And Traffic? That’s all you got?

You guys always make me chuckle.

I think this is a good time to quote my favorite comment from this thread:

It will be a glorious day when Ron Paul is NOT elected. His name will be a smudge of excrement on a tissue surging out to sea with a million tons of raw sewage.

Soros? Now you’ve got the conspiracy angle you were looking for, only it’s not us Paul supporters wearing the tinfoil hats…

Reagan, Buckley, Goldwater, Ashbrook, Schlafly

If you went point-by-point over the views espoused by each of these figures to see how much agreement there was with Ron Paul’s platform, I think you’d see a lot of common ground (perhaps excepting Ashbrook, who I’m not familiar with). The younger William F Buckley would probably have agreed with 95% of Paul’s positions.
Reagan had some nice things to say about Paul, as well.

It will be a glorious day when Ron Paul is NOT elected.

You guys really need to find someone you can support in a *positive* way, so that you can say ‘it will be a glorious day when (my candidate) gets elected’. Celebrating the defeat of someone who has never polled above 5% nationally is lame bordering on weird.

BECAUSE he disagreed with Reagan policy and believed Bush 41 would continue with Reagan’s strong stance on the USSR and many of his now proven domestic initiatives.

This is boilerplate you apparently made up without reference to sources, judging by its vagueness. Well duh, yeah, you run against someone because you disagree with their policies. But to be fair sources on something this obscure are a lot of work to dig up; I may try later. From memory (I saw Paul speak in 1988) his emphasis was on balanced budgets, an end to the welfare state, an end to the War on Drugs. It was the War on Drugs that caused his temporary departure from the Republican party (does that count as a proven domestic initiative?).
I also know that Paul opposed the grain bailout of the Soviet Union in the 1980s, which on that score at least makes him more anti-soviet than Reagan (see here for a more-conservative-than-Reagan take on the bill). However, I don’t know what his position on military spending was at the time.

Well here is my opinion… flame it if you want but I have a right(for now)to my own opinion… Ok, so you keep referring to us Ron Paul supporters as anti-government Neo-Nazis? If anyone is a Neo-Nazi it’s YOU. Do YOU have something against the liberties we enjoy as Americans? Do YOU have something against Americans? I think by all means the things Ron Paul stands for are what the founding fathers of this great country envisioned that our leaders stand for. America was a great country and thanks to big bankers who control the front runners of politics and the media they have successfully brainwashed people like YOU into some kind of mutated national-socialist/fascist/communists with this idea of a one world government and a national police force where the people are slaves to the government and instead of the government fearing the people the people fear the government. Do YOU think the men from our country fought in WWII against the Nazi’s in Germany so our country could be turned into a police state like Nazi Germany (exactly where we are heading)? I think the founding fathers and all the men who fought and died to make this country what it is (more like was) would be rolling over in their graves if they could see what is happening to it today. It is a disgrace. Do YOU think giving up your liberties for a little security is going to make you safer, or that you’ll get those liberties back? Don’t hold your breath. I think YOU are seriously confused on what this country should be. The constitution was created to make us a free country and people like YOU and the other minions of communist/fascist/dictatorship/one world government/ police state loving Neo Nazi’s are the ones who are destroying those very freedoms that belong to us as Americans. Who is the Neo-Nazi? Not us, we want our liberties and we realize just how precious and valuable they are. We realize that once they are gone you more than likely won’t get them back. We respect the constitution, the founding fathers, and what this country was founded on. We are the people who want freedom not the people like YOU who want a one world government and a police state where you cant scratch your own a** without the government knowing about it. Do you want Americans firearms confiscated because of the work of the UN and such so that we can have mass Democides and Genocides happen just like they have almost every time in history that a country disarmed it’s civilian population like what happened in the Rwandan Genocides in 1994 and many others? The UN could have stopped the Rwandan genocide they had prior knowledge and capability and just let it happen, they allowed at least 800,000 Tutsis to be slaughtered by the Hutus who sucessfully disarmed the civilians of Rwanda leaving them defensless and unable to defend themselves while they were systematicly slaughtered with machetes and other weapons. Maybe you just don’t know any history because you’ve been brainwashed since you were a child. Maybe you want a Nation ID/Real ID so the government can track you? Maybe you want to be asked “May I see your papers please?” Just like those who were asked during the Nazi tyranny in WWII? Wake up, stop being such a blinded moron and open your eyes to whats happening around you? Oh, and I see you like your freedom to use the internet and such, well if you keep heading the way your going all the freedoms you enjoy today could be gone and you might not have the luxury of it. Oh and I supose your also one of those idiots that wants the NAU and the NAFTA superhighway and all that garbage. Maybe your also unaware that our government knows our economy is crashing because they are making it crash. Ever notice how over the past few years our paper currency is getting more and more colorful like the Mexican peso, Canadian dollar, and European money? hmmmm Wonder why geee… maybe because they are preparing us for the Amerodollar or whatever they plan to call it…hmm I dunno durrr I guess I’m just too stupid to notice….or maybe their plan is subtle enough that since it has been worked in so slowly your not noticing but oh well…. at least some of us are still awake and breathing.

I think paragraphs might have helped. Brevity, complete sentences, and lack of reference to Nazis, neo- or otherwise, would also have been nice. Sigh.

You just figure that out bbartlog?

“Reagan, Buckley, Goldwater, Ashbrook, Schlafly

If you went point-by-point over the views espoused by each of these figures to see how much agreement there was with Ron Paul’s platform.”

You could of course CHERRY PICK “point by point” and find some common areas of agreement. But to say that Ron Paul is a conservative in the same way as my mentors above is LUDICROUS!

“Since there was never a Jamil Hussein to find I think my job is done. The AP was proven to have used a stringer with a pseudonym….job done. But I tell you what, you go find that evil banking conglomerate and I’ll keep looking for Jamil. While your at it, go find the passengers on those flights that never really hit the WTC.”

Yeah that story made you famous…not.

And no I’m not a “Truther” why do you have to lump all Paul supporters into that category…is that all you got?

“And Traffic? That’s all you got?”

Hey numbers don’t lie.

“You guys always make me chuckle.

I think this is a good time to quote my favorite comment from this thread:

It will be a glorious day when Ron Paul is NOT elected. His name will be a smudge of excrement on a tissue surging out to sea with a million tons of raw sewage.”

It will be a sad day for conservatives if Paul isn’t elected, if you have half abrain you may want to read Burke, Kirk, Santyana, Adams, the old Buckley to find out what real conservativism is all about and contrast it wiht your hero Bush and Paul and see who is more Right.

“In 1988 he ran against Bush 41 as a Liberatarian BECAUSE he disagreed with Reagan policy and believed Bush 41 would continue with Reagan’s strong stance on the USSR and many of his now proven domestic initiatives. He was against standing up to the USSR. So enough with ArPee trying to ride on the coattails of the Founding Fathers, Goldwater, Reagan, and the Constitution. ”

He ran against Bush 41 because Reagan wasn’t conservative enough (no gold standard, high inflation, high budget deficits, more government growth etc.). As for foreign policy Reagan ducked out of Lebanon (smartly) fairly quickly, he utilized proxies efficiently (Afghanistan, Angola, Nicaragua), he was generally suspicous of the UN, and in fact, when one looks at the Reagan Administration’s military involvements overseas, they were all very modest and, with the exception of Grenada (which was over quickly and US troops back home)didn’t entail a lot of troops being used.

You want to talk about a casual link to terrorism based on our foreign policy here is an interesting article by Ivan Eland (PH.D, CATO institute alumn)

http://www.cato.org/pubs/fpbriefs/fpb50.pdf

James M: There is a gold standard for conservatism:

Ronald Reagan is pure 24 karat gold!

Ron Paul is Fool’s Gold!

You people wouldn’t know a “real” conservative if one bit you on the ass.

And just how old are you James M?

Are you old enough to remember the false promises and siren song of John Anderson in 1980? I am. They said he was the new hope and that young people would flock to him…. They didn’t.

Perhaps you are old enough to remember Ross Perot. Maybe you even voted for him. And yet all Ross Perot did for the U.S. is allow Slick Willy and his shrew wife to win the Presidency not once, BUT TWICE!

Now, little ole Ron Paul, A LIBERTARIAN, comes along and all you utopians jump on the bandwagon and would drive it over the cliff one more time.

I don’t care how many generations of your family were Republicans. I had a Grandmother who voted for Franklin Roosevelt so many times before she saw the light. She learned from her mistakes and later embraced Reagan.

Something you apparently are unable to do.

Seems you’ll have to learn the hard way.

P.S. Again, how old are you?