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Fred Thompson Visits Mike’s America

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Yours truly got some face time this afternoon with GOP Presidential candidate Fred Thompson in the parking lot of the Sippn’ Cow Cafe in Bluffton, South Carolina.

I’ll be revising the post as news reports and video become available.

The question I had for Senator Thompson (paraphrase): “President Bush’s “new tone” failed to bring Democrats on board in a bipartisan manner even for the most serious national security issues. Both your main opponents are citing their records of getting results in heavily Democrat states. How will you get results and deliver conservative government if elected President?

The answer (paraphrase):I’ve been succesful working with Democrats in the Senate. But to move off this bitter partisan divide we’re going to have to show Democrats there’s a price to be paid at the ballot box for their divisive tactics. The American people need to send a strong, clear signal that they expect Democrats to work WITH us on these important issues.”

It’s a tough question to answer, and that’s why I asked it.

If I get a link to the video recorded by local television stations I’ll be sure and post that, or at least a transcript.

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Two other questions from the crowd:

How will you beat Hillary Clinton?: “This election is about more than Hillary Clinton and we shouldn’t elevate her to a status she doesn’t deserve. The election is about the choice between Republican conservative values and Democrats who would impose socialism and who don’t support our troops but work to undermine them.” (paraphrase)

On Immigration: What about building the border frence, the illegal aliens already here and the Dream Act? I had trouble hearing the whole answer, but Thompson was strongly in favor of building the entire 800 miles of fence Congress has already approved and for stronger enforcement of laws concerning hiring illegals. He also was strongly opposed to the Dream Act, the latest attempt in the Senate to create a backdoor amnesty and benefits for illegals. Today the Dream Act failed to win enough votes in the Senate this afternoon (Roll Call vote tally here). Senator Thompson also reminded the crowd that of his post today on his web site: “Democrat’s Dream Act is a Nightmare.”

With this impromptu question and answer session initiated by yours truly, Fred didn’t have time to eat lunch, but instead greeted other lunch goers before leaving for a speeech at Sun City Hilton Head. That speech to the mature adult gated community was not open to non residents so local GOP’rs are particularly pleased Thompson was able to drop by and say hello.

The Thompson Campaign is a Family Affair

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Fred brought along his grandson who is helping him on the campaign. Above he quipped “that’s what I used to look like.”

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First Impressions

We South Carolinians value the unique role our state plays as the “first in the South” primary. But it’s really the first conservative primary.

So after candidates do the meet and greet at Iowa pancake breakfasts and brave the coming snows in New Hampshire it’s important that they also get the southern perspective in the same personal way.

I found Senator Thompson to be direct, engaging and more than able to connect with the voters who turned out to see him today. And in person, I’m better able to dispel those media generated images of his campaign that have taken hold.

Good Olde Fashioned SC Horserace

No new polling since we began the 90 day countdown to the January
19 South Carolina GOP primary (analysis and more info here). At that point Thompson and Giuliani were running neck and neck at agout 20% each in the Real Clear Politics SC average. We’ll be watching to see if the numbers change in the wake of Thompson’s better performance in the Florida debate last Sunday and his recent swing through South Carolina.

Some in the crowd I spoke to insisted Fred is the best man to beat Hillary. What do readers think? Or should we take Fred’s advice and avoid elevating Mrs. Clinton to a stature she does not deserve?

Previously:
Rudy Visits Mike’s America
Duncan Hunter Woos SC Conservatives
NY Governor George Pataki Visits Mike’s America

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crazy
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Fred’s right. Republicans need to run a campaign designed to defeat WHOEVER the Democrats nominate. Running against Hillary at this point is exactly what Hillary needs to convince Democrats they need to forget the primary and get behind her. Why help her? Let her work a little harder for her nomination and MAYBE the media and her opponents will start taking a good luck at what they’re about to nominate.

October 24th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Igor R.
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Fred is a man to unify the Republican Party. That’s what’s necessary before beating Hillary. His recent immigration reform plan seems to be converting a lot of fence-sitters in his direction. His analysis of the DREAM act is spot on.

What’s the alternative? Rudy, who is incredibly divisive and will drive the real conservatives away? His record on illegal immigration and gun control is not good. His position on abortion is not playing well with the base. Romney? With all the recent conversions, who knows what he really stands for?

McCain and Huckabee are incredibly weak on illegal immigration. Huckabee is attempting to hide this fact. Go on his website and see how he avoids mentioning what to do with the illegals who are already here and not violating any other laws. Study his record on the issue carefully. It’s scary.

Fred is so incredibly good that other than unelectable Hunter and Tancredo there are no real alternatives to him. Please work to dispell the old/lazy idea, it’s standing in the way of the best man for the job by far!

October 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
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Igor said: “Rudy, who is incredibly divisive and will drive the real conservatives away?”

I don’t see it that way Igor. And I wonder who “real” conservatives are. I’ve met known or worked for Reagan, Buckley, Ashbrook, Schlafly, Meese……..(just to name a few).

Are they “real conservatives?”

Learning from them firsthand I wouldn’t be so quick to say Rudy is divisive.

Fred’s got his “real conservative” problems too. Remember the line at the debate about Fred opposing tort reform and supporting the trial lawyers?

I hope we don’t get wound up in this “real conservative” debate. We’ve got lots of good candidates. Each one has fine points and weak points (except Ron Paul who just SUCKS all the way around).

October 24th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Igor R.
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Mike, yes, the term “real conservatives” is a divisive term, and I shouldn’t have used in in retrospect. Let me tell you what I meant though: I often read a website called Free Republic and it’s populated by seemingly very conservative and thoughtful people. Their reaction very often seems to be that if Rudy gets the nomination they are staying home in the general election because they can’t support his record on several important issues.

I personally think that Rudy will do very well in the war on Islamofascism if elected. I am a Russian immigrant and an atheist and have no interest in the abortion issue, so I have a lot fewer problems with Rudy than many of those whose opinion I respect. Yet I just don’t see Rudy creating a heavy turnout of Southern Conservatives in the general election. I’m also suspicious about how hard he will fight to stop illegal immigration.

Of course I’m biased because I like Fred’s seemingly more fundamental approach to issues. When dealing with Islamofascism Fred wants to create a long strategy, way past Iraq. I also believe that Iran will respond better to the type of persona Fred presents, the kind of “lazy”, Southern way of squashing it like a bug without giving it a second thought and then going back to doing the usual “hick” things. They did respond very well to the “lazy” and “old” Ronald Reagan.

Tort reform? Well, yeah, he was a lawyer, give the guy a break. I don’t like “open borders” Spence working on Fred’s campaign either. And believe me, so many people would switch over to Fred’s camp if that guy were to leave for many reasons, are you listening Karen Hanretty? You have got to put things into perspective. Fred will methodically eliminate threats and he will keep other big issues facing this country simple. Federalism solves so many things that cause the rot in our society. I know that Rudy and Mitt are excellent managers, but I also really do think that Fred can have a monumental, historic impact on the direction of this country the way they can’t.

October 25th, 2007 at 12:17 pm
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Igor:

I’m familiar with the “my way or the highway” mentality that some at Free Republic tend to have on some issues of principle. I bumped into the same thing at confirmthem.com… over judicial selections. There are a small, but very vocal minority of people who take the idea of principle to lengths that can only be described as suicidal to any effective political movemement.

We saw firsthand how damaging that can be with our loss of control in both houses of Congress in 2006 which can be partially attributed to the “my way or else” voter.

I’ve noticed though that many of those folks have never done much, if any, to work for or support conservative causes. They tend to complain and bitch more than they tend to contribute or volunteer.

I just posted Rudy Giuliani’s speech to the Values Voters Summit last weekend:

http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com/2007/10/rudy-giuliani-talks-truth-to-values.html

I would challenge each of those who are single issue voters on abortion to consider the record of a man who was effective in increasing adoptions and lowering abortion as well as cleaning up pornography and reducing crime and welfare in New York City.

Rudy reminds us:

“Ronald Reagan had a great way of summarizing it. He used to say my 80 percent friend is not my 100 percent enemy.”

I’m looking forward to meeting and seeing more of the candiates in person as this process unfolds. The personal contact cannot be overrated. But other folks not so fortunate can watch the debates, read the candidates web pages and decide for themselves.

The bottom line is that Fred is a great candidate…. So is Rudy…so is Mitt. Hell, even McCain has his good side.

But we can only pick one.

And I ask everyone who supports a particular candidate to answer the same question: Will you support the eventual nominee of the party.”

If the answer is “no” then I refuse to listen to anything else they have to say.

Them’s my principles and come hell or high water I’m sticking to them!

October 25th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Igor R.
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Mike, all four would fight the war against terror. I do have a very strong concern about what exactly McCain would do about the illegal immigration. But of course unless Ron Paul is the nominee the right thing to do is to vote for whoever that is against any one of the three (or four if Algore changes his mind) Democratic frontruneers. There may be relatively little to save if the Democrats get 8 years of controlling the Congress and White House, not with their current radical attitude on every important issue. Sometimes it’s just unbelievable how we got to such peril, almost all of it self-imposed.

October 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pm

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