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	<title>Comments on: Flight 93 Family Member Against Memorial</title>
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		<title>By: You Betcha I'm a Proud Army Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>You Betcha I'm a Proud Army Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;You Need to Know About&#160;This&lt;/strong&gt;

Ã‚Â Go to Error Theory and read the post on the United 93 Memorial.
Just got back from my trip to Somerset PA, where I confronted the annual meeting of the Flight 93 Memorial Project by continuing to expose the many Islamic and terrorist memorializing fe...
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<p>Ã‚Â Go to Error Theory and read the post on the United 93 Memorial.<br />
Just got back from my trip to Somerset PA, where I confronted the annual meeting of the Flight 93 Memorial Project by continuing to expose the many Islamic and terrorist memorializing fe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yaacov Ben Moshe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yaacov Ben Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q. Yes, and where are the moral imbeciles who have flocked to Cindy Sheehan and made her the Queen of all grieving parents? Why have they no such feelings for Mr. Burnett?

A. Because they only care about Sheehan's grief because she expresses it in a way that mounts an emotional and unanswerable (if illogical and erroneous) argument against the war in Iraq. They revel as she desecrates her son's dedication and sacrifice. This exposes Sheehan's minions as the brutal ideologues and sanctimonious frauds that they are.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q. Yes, and where are the moral imbeciles who have flocked to Cindy Sheehan and made her the Queen of all grieving parents? Why have they no such feelings for Mr. Burnett?</p>
<p>A. Because they only care about Sheehan&#8217;s grief because she expresses it in a way that mounts an emotional and unanswerable (if illogical and erroneous) argument against the war in Iraq. They revel as she desecrates her son&#8217;s dedication and sacrifice. This exposes Sheehan&#8217;s minions as the brutal ideologues and sanctimonious frauds that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all the comments, at first this story seemed a little too far fetched.  But jesus, look at the proposed memorial and tell me that is not a crescent?  Is it so hard to come up with a memorial that will please people and not look like a Islamic crescent?

This design needs to be scrapped but we are fast approaching the point of no return.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all the comments, at first this story seemed a little too far fetched.  But jesus, look at the proposed memorial and tell me that is not a crescent?  Is it so hard to come up with a memorial that will please people and not look like a Islamic crescent?</p>
<p>This design needs to be scrapped but we are fast approaching the point of no return.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, I thought it was conspiratorial as well, and then I saw it, saw the exact alignment-I mean EXACT, and...ya know, it just seems to me that there's an infinite number of other options for a design.

Why is it that the Vietnam Memorial can be in the shape of a plane's wing, but not the Flt 93 Memorial which pays homage to a battle...

....ON A PLANE?!

Lemme rant away a bit further if I may.  The plane crashed a few miles from a job site I used to have until 95.  I know the area well, and we actually visited it on Oct 5, 01; before there were even makeshift memorials.  There was still a USMC Cobra gunship circling providing some sort of patrol over the site.  I think I've even got some pics of the hole with the guys in tyvek suits walking around, and excavation rigs for scale.  I remember looking at the scene and trying figure out the strange burn pattern in the woods.  Ya know what it was?  The plane hit with such force that the fuel was actually splashed up and over an area into the trees leaving a bullseye burn pattern with the hole in the middle.  I've been there several times since.  It's only about 2hrs away, and not far from my sister.  I've seen the place evolve from crater to makeshift memorial, to now this nutjob idea.

Ya know what stirred me the most?  Ya know what "memorial" is burned in my mind?

The second time I went there-I think it was 03-there was a fence with buttons, patches, notes, flowers, ribbons, etc all being left to honor those who died.  Out of the hundreds of fire department patches, and police patches, and pictures, etc....the thing that got me the most was a tiny little Hot Wheels car that some little kid (or a longing friend, parent, whoever) left at the bottom of the fence.  It was sitting on a red white and blue ribbon.  Maybe a kid left it for a daddy, or a daddy for a kid. It was clearly placed deliberately.  Someone saw past the Islam, past the terror, the butchery on board, past the stink that the hole still had a month later.  Someone saw past all that, and remembered the joy of playing with a car as a kid; a joy that was lost.

That was it.  That's what got me the most of all the times I've been there.

Everyone signs the book, or leaves a token of some sorts.

Someone had the heart to leave a toy on the battlefield.

It wasn't just grown ups that those Islamic Holy Warriors killed cut up with knives then plowed into the ground at 500+ miles an hour from thousands of feet in the air.

Yeah, methinks there ought to be a different memorial, and if they can't find something more appropriate, then I'd rather continue having the windswept, silent field and the chain link fence packed with ribbons, patches, pictures, postcards, and a little Hot Wheel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I thought it was conspiratorial as well, and then I saw it, saw the exact alignment-I mean EXACT, and&#8230;ya know, it just seems to me that there&#8217;s an infinite number of other options for a design.</p>
<p>Why is it that the Vietnam Memorial can be in the shape of a plane&#8217;s wing, but not the Flt 93 Memorial which pays homage to a battle&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;.ON A PLANE?!</p>
<p>Lemme rant away a bit further if I may.  The plane crashed a few miles from a job site I used to have until 95.  I know the area well, and we actually visited it on Oct 5, 01; before there were even makeshift memorials.  There was still a USMC Cobra gunship circling providing some sort of patrol over the site.  I think I&#8217;ve even got some pics of the hole with the guys in tyvek suits walking around, and excavation rigs for scale.  I remember looking at the scene and trying figure out the strange burn pattern in the woods.  Ya know what it was?  The plane hit with such force that the fuel was actually splashed up and over an area into the trees leaving a bullseye burn pattern with the hole in the middle.  I&#8217;ve been there several times since.  It&#8217;s only about 2hrs away, and not far from my sister.  I&#8217;ve seen the place evolve from crater to makeshift memorial, to now this nutjob idea.</p>
<p>Ya know what stirred me the most?  Ya know what &#8220;memorial&#8221; is burned in my mind?</p>
<p>The second time I went there-I think it was 03-there was a fence with buttons, patches, notes, flowers, ribbons, etc all being left to honor those who died.  Out of the hundreds of fire department patches, and police patches, and pictures, etc&#8230;.the thing that got me the most was a tiny little Hot Wheels car that some little kid (or a longing friend, parent, whoever) left at the bottom of the fence.  It was sitting on a red white and blue ribbon.  Maybe a kid left it for a daddy, or a daddy for a kid. It was clearly placed deliberately.  Someone saw past the Islam, past the terror, the butchery on board, past the stink that the hole still had a month later.  Someone saw past all that, and remembered the joy of playing with a car as a kid; a joy that was lost.</p>
<p>That was it.  That&#8217;s what got me the most of all the times I&#8217;ve been there.</p>
<p>Everyone signs the book, or leaves a token of some sorts.</p>
<p>Someone had the heart to leave a toy on the battlefield.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t just grown ups that those Islamic Holy Warriors killed cut up with knives then plowed into the ground at 500+ miles an hour from thousands of feet in the air.</p>
<p>Yeah, methinks there ought to be a different memorial, and if they can&#8217;t find something more appropriate, then I&#8217;d rather continue having the windswept, silent field and the chain link fence packed with ribbons, patches, pictures, postcards, and a little Hot Wheel.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt, You asked the question:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;"How is it that this is not bigger news?"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'll tell you exactly why this isn't bigger news. For the same reason I previously dismissed reports of the memorial being Islamic. It's just not believable. I'm not saying I don't believe the claims &lt;b&gt;NOW&lt;/b&gt;. I'm only saying they just seemed too conspiratorial at first. But after getting more details I was flabbergasted like I suspect almost every American would be. Does that make since?

There's a rumor I heard on talk radio that said the architect who designed the memorial, Paul Murdock Architects, submitted the winning design as a joke fully expecting not to win. There was also talk about him being a huge lib who inherited daddy's business (which is perfectly fine by me).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt, You asked the question:</p>
<blockquote><p><b><i>&#8220;How is it that this is not bigger news?&#8221;</i></b></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you exactly why this isn&#8217;t bigger news. For the same reason I previously dismissed reports of the memorial being Islamic. It&#8217;s just not believable. I&#8217;m not saying I don&#8217;t believe the claims <b>NOW</b>. I&#8217;m only saying they just seemed too conspiratorial at first. But after getting more details I was flabbergasted like I suspect almost every American would be. Does that make since?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a rumor I heard on talk radio that said the architect who designed the memorial, Paul Murdock Architects, submitted the winning design as a joke fully expecting not to win. There was also talk about him being a huge lib who inherited daddy&#8217;s business (which is perfectly fine by me).</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyday I read of some event or fact that promotes and supports Islam in this country. Why is this being tolerated? If these people can't assimilate into our culture then go home. This is outrageous. I wouldn't want my son's  name on that monument either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyday I read of some event or fact that promotes and supports Islam in this country. Why is this being tolerated? If these people can&#8217;t assimilate into our culture then go home. This is outrageous. I wouldn&#8217;t want my son&#8217;s  name on that monument either.</p>
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