Comments on: Ready for 110 degrees? http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/ Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:38:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Dan http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3646 Dan Sun, 20 May 2007 15:32:24 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3646 "What made me mad about this article is that NASA is not in the business of climate modelling." ...Only since Hansen's still-classic climate modelling papers beginning in 1983, and right up to this year. Of course, that's just in science journals, so it doesn't count, next to the opinion of arm-chair bloggers. One of about 100 NASA modelling sites that might lead you to good reading: <a href="http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/modeling/" rel="nofollow">http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/modeling/</a> “What made me mad about this article is that NASA is not in the business of climate modelling.”

…Only since Hansen’s still-classic climate modelling papers beginning in 1983, and right up to this year. Of course, that’s just in science journals, so it doesn’t count, next to the opinion of arm-chair bloggers.

One of about 100 NASA modelling sites that might lead you to good reading: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/modeling/

]]> By: Dan Collins http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3645 Dan Collins Wed, 16 May 2007 01:18:37 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3645 I could overlook the model's stupid predictions, if she were really, really hot. I could overlook the model’s stupid predictions, if she were really, really hot.

]]> By: Marvin http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3644 Marvin Tue, 15 May 2007 23:52:59 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3644 That's why we have sweet iced tea. That’s why we have sweet iced tea.

]]> By: crosspatch http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3643 crosspatch Tue, 15 May 2007 19:30:23 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3643 Some interesting information has turned up lately. Weather observation stations have supposed to be built according to a strict set of specifications so that temperature readings will remain consistent over time. That is ... a wooden box called a "Stevenson Screen" made of wood and coated with whitewash. In recent years, however, many places have switched to painting them with paint rather than whitewash. The problem with that is the paint is transparent to infrared while the whitewash is reflective at infrared wavelengths. So this results in the wood heating up more and raising the temperature inside the Stevenson screen. And that isn't all. More of these stations have now gone to digital thermometers. The problem is that the power supplies, charging controllers, batteries and other electronics gear is being place INSIDE the screen further raising the temperatures. And to top it all off, many new stations are being made of painted metal rather than whitewashed wood. A recent look at the very station in the UK that recently posted the highest temperature ever recorded in England showed that it was a metal screen, painted white on the outside and black on the inside. This provided the optimum possible radiation of heat to the themo probe inside from sunshine on the screen. <a href="http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/05/rising_surface_temperatures_ba.html" rel="nofollow">More here</a> Some interesting information has turned up lately. Weather observation stations have supposed to be built according to a strict set of specifications so that temperature readings will remain consistent over time. That is … a wooden box called a “Stevenson Screen” made of wood and coated with whitewash.

In recent years, however, many places have switched to painting them with paint rather than whitewash. The problem with that is the paint is transparent to infrared while the whitewash is reflective at infrared wavelengths. So this results in the wood heating up more and raising the temperature inside the Stevenson screen. And that isn’t all. More of these stations have now gone to digital thermometers. The problem is that the power supplies, charging controllers, batteries and other electronics gear is being place INSIDE the screen further raising the temperatures. And to top it all off, many new stations are being made of painted metal rather than whitewashed wood. A recent look at the very station in the UK that recently posted the highest temperature ever recorded in England showed that it was a metal screen, painted white on the outside and black on the inside. This provided the optimum possible radiation of heat to the themo probe inside from sunshine on the screen.

More here

]]> By: suek http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3642 suek Tue, 15 May 2007 17:34:55 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3642 Found this article interesting and relevant. Brings in a new angle to the discussion: <a href="http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2007/05/solar-conveyor-has-slowed.html" rel="nofollow">http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2007/05/solar-conveyor-has-slowed.html</a> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/32jpay" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/32jpay</a> (same link - just in case) Found this article interesting and relevant. Brings in a new angle to the discussion:

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2007/05/solar-conveyor-has-slowed.html

http://tinyurl.com/32jpay (same link - just in case)

]]> By: BelchSpeak http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3641 BelchSpeak Tue, 15 May 2007 17:17:20 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/15/ready-for-110-degrees/#comment-3641 What made me mad about this article is that NASA is not in the business of climate modelling. That job clearly belongs to NOAA. President Bush needs to get his act together and start cracking heads inside his departments to prevent "department creep" in which federal agencies start to encroach on each others' jobs. What made me mad about this article is that NASA is not in the business of climate modelling. That job clearly belongs to NOAA. President Bush needs to get his act together and start cracking heads inside his departments to prevent “department creep” in which federal agencies start to encroach on each others’ jobs.

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