Comments on: The Demise Of The MSM? http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/ Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:56:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Bill Faith http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1980 Bill Faith Mon, 04 Dec 2006 05:16:18 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1980 Doesn't look like I can leave you trackbacks since you moved to MT. I linked from <a href="CENTCOM%20says%20AP’s%20%22Iraqi%20police%20source%22%20isn’t%20Iraqi%20police" rel="nofollow">CENTCOM says AP’s "Iraqi police source" isn’t Iraqi police -- Part 7</a> Doesn’t look like I can leave you trackbacks since you moved to MT. I linked from CENTCOM says AP’s "Iraqi police source" isn’t Iraqi police — Part 7

]]> By: crosspatch http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1979 crosspatch Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:20:34 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1979 UPI.com still works. They aren't owned by the arabs anymore. They are owned by the same people who own the Washington Times. <a href="http://www.upi.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.upi.com/</a> UPI.com still works. They aren’t owned by the arabs anymore. They are owned by the same people who own the Washington Times.

http://www.upi.com/

]]> By: rocketsbrain http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1978 rocketsbrain Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:49:27 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1978 <b>Write your local editor and complain</b> I suggest we all write the editors of our local papers and demand they hold the AP accountable. See this excerpt I wrote to the editor of my paper: <blockquote> . . . Perception is everything thing and if the AP is running stuff with questionable sources they should be called on it. The enemy is very adept in using our media in the war of information. Unfortunately readers are not the real consumers here. . . You can ask the probing probing questions that Michelle, Curt et al are. If the member/consumer newspaper editorial staffs do not hold the AP accountable for shoddy sourcing then the profession will be tainted with the AP's bad news feeds. Credibility/relevance is key to the survival of the print media with the emergence of alt media sources in this major transformational period we're in as defined by Hugh Hewitt's in his book <i>Blog</i>.</blockquote> Write your local editor and complain

I suggest we all write the editors of our local papers and demand they hold the AP accountable.

See this excerpt I wrote to the editor of my paper:

. . . Perception is everything thing and if the AP is running stuff with questionable sources they should be called on it. The enemy is very adept in using our media in the war of information.

Unfortunately readers are not the real consumers here. . . You can ask the probing probing questions that Michelle, Curt et al are. If the member/consumer newspaper editorial staffs do not hold the AP accountable for shoddy sourcing then the profession will be tainted with the AP’s bad news feeds.

Credibility/relevance is key to the survival of the print media with the emergence of alt media sources in this major transformational period we’re in as defined by Hugh Hewitt’s in his book Blog.

]]> By: Don Surber http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1983 Don Surber Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:21:01 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1983 <strong>Expect more Jamil Husseins</strong> Is AP's 6 Sunnis burned alive story the Pinto of the MSM? Curt, the blogger who busted the AP, seems to think so in his post "The Demise Of The MSM?" The answer is no, of course, but sadly I expect more Pintos, and here is why. Expect more Jamil Husseins

Is AP’s 6 Sunnis burned alive story the Pinto of the MSM? Curt, the blogger who busted the AP, seems to think so in his post “The Demise Of The MSM?” The answer is no, of course, but sadly I expect more Pintos, and here is why.

]]> By: Wake up America>Media Lies http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1982 Wake up America>Media Lies Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:00:49 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1982 <strong>Good News From Iraq Part #18</strong> On the right side of this site there is a link to Operation Iraqi Freedom and there is some awesome news on that site daily. Good news. The news that the mainstream media somehow, either misses or simply ignores. We don't. We care. I challenge anyone... Good News From Iraq Part #18

On the right side of this site there is a link to Operation Iraqi Freedom and there is some awesome news on that site daily. Good news. The news that the mainstream media somehow, either misses or simply ignores. We don’t. We care. I challenge anyone…

]]> By: Bill's Bites http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1981 Bill's Bites Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:04:44 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1981 <strong>CENTCOM says AP’s "Iraqi police source" isn’t Iraqi police</strong> (Part 7 -- Continued from this post.) Brave New WorldJules Critendon The pajama-clad ranks of conservative bloggers are officially here as effective media watchdogs, having forced Dan Rather's retirement; having forced Reuters and other news agencies t... CENTCOM says AP’s “Iraqi police source” isn’t Iraqi police

(Part 7 — Continued from this post.) Brave New WorldJules Critendon The pajama-clad ranks of conservative bloggers are officially here as effective media watchdogs, having forced Dan Rather’s retirement; having forced Reuters and other news agencies t…

]]> By: Tom at BizzyBlog http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1977 Tom at BizzyBlog Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:19:06 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1977 You didn't really think the moonbats would abandon the brothers in the media so easily did you? Tom BizzyBlog.com You didn’t really think the moonbats would abandon the brothers in the media so easily did you?

Tom
BizzyBlog.com

]]> By: rocketsbrain http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1976 rocketsbrain Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:52:04 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/12/03/the-demise-of-the-msm/#comment-1976 <b>Tinfoilers and Blogarting</b> Curt, We've got a long way to go. The Spokesman-Review is a fairly <i>with it</i> MSM outlet. The SR has done excellent investigative reporting. An associate editor was kind enough to start a thread on his blog, <a href="http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/hbo/" rel="nofollow">Huckleberries Online</a>, on your breaking story after I sent him and excerpt. A very lively discussion thread ensued. Some of the resident bloviators accused me of jumping the shark numerous times. And these folks are in Northern Idaho - not generally thought of as <i>moonbat</i> territory. I was the source material for some new blog terminology :-) See this <a href="http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/hbo/archive.asp?postID=11835#20061128213631" rel="nofollow">typical response</a> and scroll the thread: <blockquote>Winds of Change, Flopping Aces, The Anchoress, and Patterico's Pontifications vs. NBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post... Sure. How could you not jump all over "Flopping Aces" as your source of news in Iraq...I mean, hey, the guy probably wears desert digi camo pajamas as he types away in his basement. The tinfoil brilliance in this, is of course, you accuse the MSM of lying and you get to pick and choose whatever blog news you want to believe that supports your political belief system. How convenient. RBT, do you support the war? Do you want us to stay and fight?</blockquote> and this follow-up: <blockquote>RBT, I can't even get my mind around how many times you jumped the shark with your neoconservative nonsense up there. But you simply regurgitate the paranoid rantings of the dead enders of the administration. It's Dick Cheney talking point analysis. The only thing missing are links to Little Green Footballs and Freerepublic.com. Sorry, but the horrid little neoconservative experiment is over. Iraq is in a civil war. We'll come crawling out of there with our tails tucked between our legs soon enough. This one will have greater long term impact than even Vietname on suppressing future efforts of American presidents to embroil us in quagmire. So I guess those 3000 Americans died for something worthy after all. Soon, you right wing warbloggers are gonna have to get out of your cheez whip stained pajamas and come up the basement stairs and rejoin society.</blockquote> and of course this: <blockquote>Do you realize that you and Flopping Faces and Malkin and Powerline, Little Green Snotballs, Instacracker and the rest of the warbloggers out in the fever swamps are truly making a difference? Yes. Unfortunately, it's probably not what you all intended unless by "difference" you're ok with it meaning "source of mocking and amusement" or "what happens when tinfoil overheats."</blockquote> Tinfoilers and Blogarting

Curt,

We’ve got a long way to go. The Spokesman-Review is a fairly with it MSM outlet. The SR has done excellent investigative reporting.

An associate editor was kind enough to start a thread on his blog, Huckleberries Online, on your breaking story after I sent him and excerpt. A very lively discussion thread ensued.

Some of the resident bloviators accused me of jumping the shark numerous times. And these folks are in Northern Idaho - not generally thought of as moonbat territory. I was the source material for some new blog terminology :-)
See this typical response and scroll the thread:

Winds of Change, Flopping Aces, The Anchoress, and Patterico’s Pontifications vs. NBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post…

Sure. How could you not jump all over “Flopping Aces” as your source of news in Iraq…I mean, hey, the guy probably wears desert digi camo pajamas as he types away in his basement.

The tinfoil brilliance in this, is of course, you accuse the MSM of lying and you get to pick and choose whatever blog news you want to believe that supports your political belief system. How convenient.

RBT, do you support the war? Do you want us to stay and fight?

and this follow-up:

RBT, I can’t even get my mind around how many times you jumped the shark with your neoconservative nonsense up there.

But you simply regurgitate the paranoid rantings of the dead enders of the administration. It’s Dick Cheney talking point analysis. The only thing missing are links to Little Green Footballs and Freerepublic.com.

Sorry, but the horrid little neoconservative experiment is over. Iraq is in a civil war. We’ll come crawling out of there with our tails tucked between our legs soon enough.

This one will have greater long term impact than even Vietname on suppressing future efforts of American presidents to embroil us in quagmire.

So I guess those 3000 Americans died for something worthy after all.

Soon, you right wing warbloggers are gonna have to get out of your cheez whip stained pajamas and come up the basement stairs and rejoin society.

and of course this:

Do you realize that you and Flopping Faces and Malkin and Powerline, Little Green Snotballs, Instacracker and the rest of the warbloggers out in the fever swamps are truly making a difference?

Yes. Unfortunately, it’s probably not what you all intended unless by “difference” you’re ok with it meaning “source of mocking and amusement” or “what happens when tinfoil overheats.”

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