Comments on: The Democrat Mole In The CIA Fired http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:34:06 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » Shaping the Battle Space http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-87991 Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » Shaping the Battle Space Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:16:15 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-87991 [...] and sabotaged and undermined anti-terror programs by publishing leaks regarding such things as CIA secret prisons, NSA surveillance program, the SWIFT program? Were 32 frontpage stories on abu Ghraib published in [...] [...] and sabotaged and undermined anti-terror programs by publishing leaks regarding such things as CIA secret prisons, NSA surveillance program, the SWIFT program? Were 32 frontpage stories on abu Ghraib published in [...]

]]> By: padt95 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1018 padt95 Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1018 Are you kidding...just one person, one has been fired! Come on...every person at State who has been there for more than five years should be fired...CIA too! Get rid of them all. Only hire back 1/3 of each group and level the playing field. While we're at it, how about anyone in the Dept of Agri? What do these people do? There is so much opportunity to get rid of gvt wonks...the CIA is a nice start. Are you kidding…just one person, one has been fired! Come on…every person at State who has been there for more than five years should be fired…CIA too! Get rid of them all. Only hire back 1/3 of each group and level the playing field. While we’re at it, how about anyone in the Dept of Agri? What do these people do? There is so much opportunity to get rid of gvt wonks…the CIA is a nice start.

]]> By: John http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1019 John Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1019 Oh, for god's sake, with the recent media hype we could play "battling leakers" from both parties all week long if we wanted to. I made the mistake of going on an annotated blogging binge this weekend, each one citing more sources of information and concurring opinions than you could shake a stick at. After this, I came to the following conclusions: All Democrats are America-hating, conniving, insidious bastards. All Republicans are America-hating, conniving, insidious bastards. And I don't know which one is more true. Heck, the media coined the term "culture of corruption" because it's a CULTURE, not a single PARTY! And before attempting to refute that statement, read 5 ultra-left-wing pro-communist baby-killing annotated blogs and 5 neoconservative GOP-fellating annotated blogs and tell me if you can still see straight from all the spin. Maybe I'm just not a fan of government in general. Oh, for god’s sake, with the recent media hype we could play “battling leakers” from both parties all week long if we wanted to. I made the mistake of going on an annotated blogging binge this weekend, each one citing more sources of information and concurring opinions than you could shake a stick at. After this, I came to the following conclusions:

All Democrats are America-hating, conniving, insidious bastards.
All Republicans are America-hating, conniving, insidious bastards.

And I don’t know which one is more true. Heck, the media coined the term “culture of corruption” because it’s a CULTURE, not a single PARTY! And before attempting to refute that statement, read 5 ultra-left-wing pro-communist baby-killing annotated blogs and 5 neoconservative GOP-fellating annotated blogs and tell me if you can still see straight from all the spin.

Maybe I’m just not a fan of government in general.

]]> By: Carl Goss http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1020 Carl Goss Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1020 What's ignored in your discussion, is the reason, exactly, why the US has to maintain GULAGS in the first place. Why are they necessary? What's the benefit to the US? The only benefit I can see, is more freedom to abuse POWs without having to worry about things like the international convention on the treatment of POWs or congressional oversight. Abu-Ghreb all over again. Porter Goss can't point to one single case where the intelligence services wound up doing a better job because of these prisons. He just fulminates on, telling everyone how important secret prisons are to the US and how he hopes grand juries and prosecutors will start hitting on not only leakers, but also reporters. I say close 'em. The US doesn't need 'em. And the information acquired by abusing POWs is probably worthless in any event. What’s ignored in your discussion, is the reason, exactly, why the US has to maintain GULAGS in the first place. Why are they necessary? What’s the benefit to the US?

The only benefit I can see, is more freedom to abuse POWs without having to worry about things like the international convention on the treatment of POWs or congressional oversight.

Abu-Ghreb all over again.

Porter Goss can’t point to one single case where the intelligence services wound up doing a better job because of these prisons.

He just fulminates on, telling everyone how important secret prisons are to the US and how he hopes grand juries and prosecutors will start hitting on not only leakers, but also reporters.

I say close ‘em. The US doesn’t need ‘em. And the information acquired by abusing POWs is probably worthless in any event.

]]> By: Cindy Anderson http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1021 Cindy Anderson Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1021 From my readings, these secret prisons were begun under the Clinton administration in the war on terror which she would have known. Therefore, this was intended to bring down President Bush. And if she had problems with the policy, she could have gone to Congress or a superior to protest. There are many things she could have done rather than go to the press. It was obviously a politically motivated action. If IRS tax evasion is an imprionable offense and even shoplifting, why is this woman ONLY being fired. She should be put in jail for a long time. This did terrible damage to our national security. From my readings, these secret prisons were begun under the Clinton administration in the war on terror which she would have known. Therefore, this was intended to bring down President Bush. And if she had problems with the policy, she could have gone to Congress or a superior to protest. There are many things she could have done rather than go to the press. It was obviously a politically motivated action. If IRS tax evasion is an imprionable offense and even shoplifting, why is this woman ONLY being fired. She should be put in jail for a long time. This did terrible damage to our national security.

]]> By: M. Simon http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1022 M. Simon Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1022 <a href="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2006/04/party-of-traitors.html" rel="nofollow">A Party of Traitors</a> The Mary McCarthy story about a <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=1551" rel="nofollow">Democrat Mole in the CIA</a> is breaking hard against the Democrats. There are ties in this to Joe Wilson. Communist fronts. The Tides Foundation. Teresa Kerry. John Kerry. Sandy Burglar. Zbigniew Brzezinski. General Wesley Clark USA (Ret.). General Anthony Zin A Party of Traitors

The Mary McCarthy story about a Democrat Mole in the CIA is breaking hard against the Democrats. There are ties in this to Joe Wilson. Communist fronts. The Tides Foundation. Teresa Kerry. John Kerry. Sandy Burglar. Zbigniew Brzezinski. General Wesley Clark USA (Ret.). General Anthony Zin

]]> By: Old Spook http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1023 Old Spook Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1023 Try this on for size in terms of prosecuting the reporter (sellign secrets to profit from them, be it via direct payment or newspaper sales, is still a crime as far as I know) - at leat the law below has no exceptions to it for "press". <blockquote>U.S.C. Title 18, Part I Ch 37 Sec 793(e) Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information (e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it</blockquote> Also deserving attention is: <blockquote>U.S.C. Title 18, Part I Ch 37 Sec 793(e) Sec. 798. Disclosure of classified information <blockquote> <blockquote>(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information</blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> Again, no protections there for the press. Try this on for size in terms of prosecuting the reporter (sellign secrets to profit from them, be it via direct payment or newspaper sales, is still a crime as far as I know) – at leat the law below has no exceptions to it for “press”.

U.S.C. Title 18, Part I Ch 37 Sec 793(e) Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or
control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch,
photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model,
instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or
information relating to the national defense which information the
possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the
United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully
communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated,
delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver,
transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the
same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains
the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the
United States entitled to receive it

Also deserving attention is:

U.S.C. Title 18, Part I Ch 37 Sec 793(e) Sec. 798. Disclosure of classified information

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes,
transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person,
or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or
interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign
government to the detriment of the United States any classified
information

Again, no protections there for the press.

]]> By: Richard Davis http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1024 Richard Davis Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1024 I'd like to kick McCarthy in the butt so hard she'd taste hair! (and the rest of the liberal traitors too) I’d like to kick McCarthy in the butt so hard she’d taste hair!

(and the rest of the liberal traitors too)

]]> By: Lee http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1025 Lee Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1025 Assuming this is all accurate (and I cannot see how it isn't, given the extent of the research everyone has done) the Government MUST pursue a criminal prosecution. That fact that Ms. McCarthy was with the IG is all the more reason to come down hard on her, because the IG is the control function. It would be nice to see her charged with treason, but I don't know whether that would stick. If the Government does not prosecute (or lets her off with a minimal sentence and lets her keep her pension, etc., it will open the door to all manner of national security leaks. Finally, give her background, what qualified her for the positions she held, anyway? No wonder we were blind-sided on 9/11 when we populated our national security organizations with politically-correct fluff. Assuming this is all accurate (and I cannot see how it isn’t, given the extent of the research everyone has done) the Government MUST pursue a criminal prosecution. That fact that Ms. McCarthy was with the IG is all the more reason to come down hard on her, because the IG is the control function. It would be nice to see her charged with treason, but I don’t know whether that would stick.

If the Government does not prosecute (or lets her off with a minimal sentence and lets her keep her pension, etc., it will open the door to all manner of national security leaks.

Finally, give her background, what qualified her for the positions she held, anyway? No wonder we were blind-sided on 9/11 when we populated our national security organizations with politically-correct fluff.

]]> By: Jay http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1026 Jay Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1026 Glad to see your site is back up. Glad to see your site is back up.

]]> By: Mike's America http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1027 Mike's America Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1027 Curt: You surpassed yourself with this post! It's the most comprehensive and thorough resource for this important story that I have come across. You either have a staff of cyber gnomes hidden away in the garage where you keep your restored Charger or you are the speed reader/editor of all time! Excellent and top notch work! Curt: You surpassed yourself with this post! It’s the most comprehensive and thorough resource for this important story that I have come across.

You either have a staff of cyber gnomes hidden away in the garage where you keep your restored Charger or you are the speed reader/editor of all time!

Excellent and top notch work!

]]> By: DANEgerus http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1028 DANEgerus Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1028 Great roundup... working on one of my own too... <a href="http://www.danegerus.com/weblog/Comments.asp?svComment=14324" rel="nofollow"> <b>But this time the McCarthy is waving a list of known... patriots.</b></a> Thankyou, Great roundup… working on one of my own too…


But this time the McCarthy is waving a list of known… patriots.

Thankyou,

]]> By: S Silverstein http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1029 S Silverstein Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1029 <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/21/AR2006042101218_pf.html" rel="nofollow">CIA Officer Is Fired for Media Leaks</a> <em>Post Executive Editor Leonard Downie Jr. said people who provide citizens the information they need to hold their government accountable should not "come to harm for that." "The reporting that Dana did was very important accountability reporting about how the CIA and the rest of the U.S. government have been conducting the war on terror," Downie said. "Whether or not the actions of the CIA or other agencies have interfered with anyone's civil liberties is important information for Americans to know and is an important part of our jobs."</em> Yes, Mr. Downie: we wouldn't want to interfere with the "civil liberties" of terrorists captured in foreign lands, now would we? I forget now, in what election did we elect YOU to protect the civil liberties of terrorists, or anyone's civil liberties for that matter? Was it in 1992? 1996? 2000? 2004? None of the above? Oh, I see. you elected yourself for that function. We don't get a choice to vote for you? To vet your political ideology, intellectual competence and honesty? What about our civil liberties to do so? Oh, I see. We don't have that particular civil liberty. Mr. Downie, many of us don't want your kind of help. Thank you very much. When's the next election in which you're running? We want to vote you out of office. You mean, we can't? I thought the news media was democratic. You mean it's not? Thank God for Leonard Downie Jr., The World's Most Fantastic Self-Appointed World Savior. CIA Officer Is Fired for Media Leaks

Post Executive Editor Leonard Downie Jr. said people who provide citizens the information they need to hold their government accountable should not “come to harm for that.”

“The reporting that Dana did was very important accountability reporting about how the CIA and the rest of the U.S. government have been conducting the war on terror,” Downie said. “Whether or not the actions of the CIA or other agencies have interfered with anyone’s civil liberties is important information for Americans to know and is an important part of our jobs.”

Yes, Mr. Downie: we wouldn’t want to interfere with the “civil liberties” of terrorists captured in foreign lands, now would we?

I forget now, in what election did we elect YOU to protect the civil liberties of terrorists, or anyone’s civil liberties for that matter? Was it in 1992? 1996? 2000? 2004?

None of the above?

Oh, I see. you elected yourself for that function.

We don’t get a choice to vote for you? To vet your political ideology, intellectual competence and honesty?

What about our civil liberties to do so?

Oh, I see. We don’t have that particular civil liberty.

Mr. Downie, many of us don’t want your kind of help. Thank you very much.

When’s the next election in which you’re running? We want to vote you out of office.

You mean, we can’t?

I thought the news media was democratic. You mean it’s not?

Thank God for Leonard Downie Jr., The World’s Most Fantastic Self-Appointed World Savior.

]]> By: Scrapiron http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1030 Scrapiron Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1030 It's not funny but all of these people are still working for half of the Slick Willie administration since he had a co-president who is now seeking office. If this isn't enough to scare the pants of the American people then we are really in trouble. Looks like putting Hillary in the presidents office or putting the team of Saddam/Osama in the office would be the same. It’s not funny but all of these people are still working for half of the Slick Willie administration since he had a co-president who is now seeking office. If this isn’t enough to scare the pants of the American people then we are really in trouble. Looks like putting Hillary in the presidents office or putting the team of Saddam/Osama in the office would be the same.

]]> By: Brian http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-f/#comment-1031 Brian Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:22:02 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/04/21/the-democrat-mole-in-the-cia-fired/#comment-1031 Dude...you OWN this story. I've been a regular reader of your blog for several months now, and you,sir, are a star in the blogoshpere. This story should give you the recognition you deserve. Well done. Dude…you OWN this story. I’ve been a regular reader of your blog for several months now, and you,sir, are a star in the blogoshpere.

This story should give you the recognition you deserve. Well done.

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